Re: [hibernate-dev] 5.1 tentative release date

2016-01-23 Thread Steve Ebersole
Gillaume, I am still seeing conflicts On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 7:10 AM Guillaume Smet wrote: > On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 6:40 PM, Steve Ebersole > wrote: > >> If you clean up the conflicts I can look for 5.1 >> > > Done! > > -- > Guillaume > ___ hib

Re: [hibernate-dev] 5.1 tentative release date

2016-01-22 Thread Steve Ebersole
And please let's not take that to mean "let's add more tasks to 5.1 now..." ;) On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 9:16 AM Steve Ebersole wrote: > I just pushed 5.1 back to Feb 10th in order to get all this work in. > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 6:13 AM Gunnar Morling > wrote: > >> I went for the proposed in

Re: [hibernate-dev] 5.1 tentative release date

2016-01-22 Thread Steve Ebersole
I just pushed 5.1 back to Feb 10th in order to get all this work in. On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 6:13 AM Gunnar Morling wrote: > I went for the proposed intermediary step to avoid breaking the API of > SchemaManagementTool and its delegates. If you have a way for not > breaking the API or think brea

Re: [hibernate-dev] 5.1 tentative release date

2016-01-20 Thread Gunnar Morling
I went for the proposed intermediary step to avoid breaking the API of SchemaManagementTool and its delegates. If you have a way for not breaking the API or think breaking it is alright, then +1 for doing the ProperSolution™ in 5.1. What would it comprise, changing the delegate methods such as doC

Re: [hibernate-dev] 5.1 tentative release date

2016-01-19 Thread Sanne Grinovero
On 19 January 2016 at 15:25, Steve Ebersole wrote: > I'd like to get this work into 5.1. But, as much as possible, I'd like to > get the ProperSolution in place rather than just a > StepInTheRightDirection. If we need to push this date 2-4 weeks I am ok > with that. That would help us coordinat

Re: [hibernate-dev] 5.1 tentative release date

2016-01-19 Thread Steve Ebersole
I'd like to get this work into 5.1. But, as much as possible, I'd like to get the ProperSolution in place rather than just a StepInTheRightDirection. If we need to push this date 2-4 weeks I am ok with that. That would help us coordinate with Infinispan 8.2 schedule (iiuc) for hibernate-infinisp

Re: [hibernate-dev] 5.1 tentative release date

2016-01-19 Thread Gunnar Morling
Hi Steve, As discussed on IRC, I tried plugging in my own SchemaManagementTool and delegates and letting them do the initialization work required for OGM. I am hitting a wall though when it comes to the usage in the SchemaExport controller: As it's invoking doCreate() and doDrop() right in the co

Re: [hibernate-dev] 5.1 tentative release date

2016-01-14 Thread Sanne Grinovero
On 14 January 2016 at 15:16, Petar Tahchiev wrote: > Hi all, > > I don't think it's a travesty - I actually use ehcache 2.x now :) > Thanks Sanne - I'll research infinispan more. One other thing - I see > there's a module hibernate-infinispan here: > > http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/hibernate/h

Re: [hibernate-dev] 5.1 tentative release date

2016-01-14 Thread Petar Tahchiev
Hi all, I don't think it's a travesty - I actually use ehcache 2.x now :) Thanks Sanne - I'll research infinispan more. One other thing - I see there's a module hibernate-infinispan here: http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/hibernate/hibernate-infinispan/ and inside I see they are using the 7.2.1.

Re: [hibernate-dev] 5.1 tentative release date

2016-01-14 Thread Sanne Grinovero
Hi Petar, Infinispan can work as a separate service, but that's not the default. It's primarily designed for embedded caching, is OSS, implements JSR-107 and also has integration helpers for Spring. There are several other OSS implementations too; AFAIR cache2k is a good one and also implements JS

Re: [hibernate-dev] 5.1 tentative release date

2016-01-14 Thread Steve Ebersole
Ehcache is all of those things iiuc. You are more than welcome to help Louis, Alex, Sanne and the rest of us work on that JSR-107 based integration to get it integrated sooner since its so important for you and since its such a travesty ;) On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 8:51 AM Steve Ebersole wrote:

Re: [hibernate-dev] 5.1 tentative release date

2016-01-14 Thread Petar Tahchiev
Exactly, I'm struggling to find a JSR-107 second-level cache to plug in my project. EHCache 3.x does not integrate with hibernate yet, neither does hazelcast - they have a PR, but they'll merge it in the next couple of months. Oracle Coherence I think is paid, so is IBM extremescale and Grigain. J

Re: [hibernate-dev] 5.1 tentative release date

2016-01-14 Thread Steve Ebersole
I am not sure I am a big fan of The String->Object change specifically. In theory it sounds great. But there is a major premise in schema tooling around the idea of the actions being reduce-able to Strings. That's important not just for SQL, but for the idea of writing to a file as well. It also

Re: [hibernate-dev] 5.1 tentative release date

2016-01-14 Thread Steve Ebersole
So then it sounds like "no" to this, which is fine. We already have updated to a much newer Ehcache and as pointed out earlier the stability in the Ehcache API actually used in the integration means any 2.x version of Ehcache should be fine to drop in. Ehcache 3.x support will be based on that JS

Re: [hibernate-dev] 5.1 tentative release date

2016-01-14 Thread Gunnar Morling
Hi Steve, One thing useful to have for OGM would be a generalization of the hbm2ddl tooling so we can re-use it for managing NoSQL databases. Not all of them are "schemaless", e.g. Cassandra works with a fixed schema, and while MongoDB largely is schemaless, we still want to create stuff like inde

Re: [hibernate-dev] 5.1 tentative release date

2016-01-13 Thread Guillaume Smet
On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 6:40 PM, Steve Ebersole wrote: > If you clean up the conflicts I can look for 5.1 > Done! -- Guillaume ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev

Re: [hibernate-dev] 5.1 tentative release date

2016-01-12 Thread Steve Ebersole
If you clean up the conflicts I can look for 5.1 On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 11:35 AM Guillaume Smet wrote: > Hi Steve and al. > > Any chance we could make progress on HHH-7610 > and > https://github.com/hibernate/hibernate-orm/pull/1080 for 5.1? > >

Re: [hibernate-dev] 5.1 tentative release date

2016-01-12 Thread Guillaume Smet
Hi Steve and al. Any chance we could make progress on HHH-7610 and https://github.com/hibernate/hibernate-orm/pull/1080 for 5.1? I'll revisit the PR tomorrow to fix the conflicts. -- Guillaume On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 5:08 PM, Scott Marlow wrot

Re: [hibernate-dev] 5.1 tentative release date

2016-01-12 Thread Scott Marlow
On 01/11/2016 11:04 AM, Steve Ebersole wrote: > On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 9:00 PM Scott Marlow > wrote: > > Should we also look at changing Hibernate to not require Javassist > classes be on the deployment classpath? > > > I just don't see how that is ever going t

Re: [hibernate-dev] 5.1 tentative release date

2016-01-11 Thread Sanne Grinovero
Hi Alex! I'm not expecting you to be able to work much on that 107 based cache.. if you can that's great of course, but realistically if you could just make it good enough for a PR then I think we should be able to help finish that. The "extension points" we discussed can certainly wait to be imple

Re: [hibernate-dev] 5.1 tentative release date

2016-01-11 Thread Alex Snaps
Right, there was no plan to provide something for Ehcache3 quite yet. That being said, I wonder whether we ever will. I have a 107 compliant H2LC implementation. I also went over it with Sanne during Javaone and we think it can be made into something suiting for bunch of providers. Now, small cavea

Re: [hibernate-dev] 5.1 tentative release date

2016-01-11 Thread Steve Ebersole
On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 9:00 PM Scott Marlow wrote: > Should we also look at changing Hibernate to not require Javassist > classes be on the deployment classpath? I just don't see how that is ever going to be realistically possible. If you have specific suggestions, we are all ears ;) _

Re: [hibernate-dev] 5.1 tentative release date

2016-01-11 Thread Steve Ebersole
Petar, Alex Snaps (in CC) has been doing some work to update the version of Ehcache used in Hibernate ORM. Alex, any updates? As I understood it though Ehcache 3.x was not part of that effort, but Alex can of course say for sure. On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 3:25 AM Petar Tahchiev wrote: > Hello a

Re: [hibernate-dev] 5.1 tentative release date

2016-01-11 Thread Scott Marlow
Do we have any feedback from the Infinispan team, as to what version of Infinispan should be included in ORM 5.1? From the WildFly perspective, we are currently using Infinispan 8.1.0.Final in WildFly 10 but I have no idea which version will be used in WildFly 11.0. On 01/08/2016 10:08 AM, Ste

Re: [hibernate-dev] 5.1 tentative release date

2016-01-09 Thread Petar Tahchiev
Hello all, I just saw ehcache 3.0.Alpha is already out. Any chance to have the hibernate-ehcache module updated in 5.1? 2016-01-09 5:00 GMT+02:00 Scott Marlow : > I'll create a jira for the Javassist to be part of 5.1. > > Should we also look at changing Hibernate to not require Javassist > clas

Re: [hibernate-dev] 5.1 tentative release date

2016-01-08 Thread Scott Marlow
I'll create a jira for the Javassist to be part of 5.1. Should we also look at changing Hibernate to not require Javassist classes be on the deployment classpath? This might require cloning some Javassist runtime classes so that we don't get CNFE on javassist.util.proxy.ProxyObject (and whatev

Re: [hibernate-dev] 5.1 tentative release date

2016-01-08 Thread Steve Ebersole
I don't see a Jira to upgrade Javassist as part of 5.1... On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 1:35 PM Scott Marlow wrote: > Should we upgrade to javassist latest in 5.1 still? > > On 01/08/2016 10:08 AM, Steve Ebersole wrote: > > Just a heads up that I tentatively set Jan 27th as the release date for > > 5.

Re: [hibernate-dev] 5.1 tentative release date

2016-01-08 Thread Scott Marlow
Should we upgrade to javassist latest in 5.1 still? On 01/08/2016 10:08 AM, Steve Ebersole wrote: > Just a heads up that I tentatively set Jan 27th as the release date for > 5.1. Please let me know if that does not work for anyone. Also please > keep that date in mind if there is anything you wa

[hibernate-dev] 5.1 tentative release date

2016-01-08 Thread Steve Ebersole
Just a heads up that I tentatively set Jan 27th as the release date for 5.1. Please let me know if that does not work for anyone. Also please keep that date in mind if there is anything you want to get into 5.1. ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-