[hibernate-dev] NoORM IRC meeting minutes

2017-12-19 Thread Guillaume Smet
Hi, Here are the minutes of this week's IRC meeting: 15:34 < jbott> Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2017/hibernate-dev.2017-12-19-14.03.html 15:34 < jbott> Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2017/hibernat

[hibernate-dev] HHH-12172 - Bintray v. OSSRH

2017-12-19 Thread Steve Ebersole
HHH-12172 is about moving away from the JBoss Nexus repo for publishing our artifacts. There is an open question about which service to use instead - Sonatype's OSSRH (Nexus) or JFrog's Bintray (Artifactory). Personally I think Artifactory is far superior of a UI/platform. We all know Nexus from

Re: [hibernate-dev] HHH-9440 - full instantiation of composites

2017-12-19 Thread Steve Ebersole
My concern with entities is not so much the full instantiation case... its where I know this goes next - namely requests to allow a mix where some attributes are ctor-injected while others are injected normally. Allowing ctor injection of any persistent state is going to open that window. Also, g

Re: [hibernate-dev] HHH-9440 - full instantiation of composites

2017-12-19 Thread Sanne Grinovero
Haven't thought it through and I'm possibly not aware of all consequences but I'd be curious to hear more about why you'd be completely in disagreement with having such a feture for any model, inlcuding entities. We have since recently "refential caching" which requires entities to be fully immuta