Re: [hibernate-dev] HSearch + Tika bridge using Wildfly modules

2015-05-29 Thread Brett Meyer
Sanne, I might still be missing something. Artificer's war does not include any Hibernate ORM, Hibernate Search, or Tika jars. For Wildfly 8.2, the war's jboss-deployment-structure.xml includes: (includes tika-parsers-1.6.jar) (Also using the org.hibernate module, but that's implicitly added

Re: [hibernate-dev] WildFly 10 + Hibernate ORM 5 integration status update...

2015-05-29 Thread Steve Ebersole
So: 1) hibernate-infinispan seems to be able to see infinispan-core (which is what defines as a dependency) 2) hibernate-infinispan seems to not be able to see infinispan-commons (which I would have to assume infinispan-core defines as a dependency) This sure seems like a problem in the WF module/

Re: [hibernate-dev] WildFly 10 + Hibernate ORM 5 integration status update...

2015-05-29 Thread Scott Marlow
On 05/29/2015 02:03 PM, Steve Ebersole wrote: > Scott, first please use a SNAPSHOT build as you'll need it for the HCANN > fix I did, or you could just pull in the newest HCANN (5.0.0.Final) Will do. > > As for the ClassNotFoundException, I really do not get this one. So, > essentially: > > 1)

Re: [hibernate-dev] WildFly 10 + Hibernate ORM 5 integration status update...

2015-05-29 Thread Steve Ebersole
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Sanne Grinovero wrote: > 2. this is not expected, especially as I think the Infinispan version > already in WF is aligned with the one in ORM5? > Steve, do you remember about classloader strategy changes between > latest ORM 4.3 and 5.0.0.CR1? The only one that

Re: [hibernate-dev] WildFly 10 + Hibernate ORM 5 integration status update...

2015-05-29 Thread Steve Ebersole
Scott, first please use a SNAPSHOT build as you'll need it for the HCANN fix I did, or you could just pull in the newest HCANN (5.0.0.Final) As for the ClassNotFoundException, I really do not get this one. So, essentially: 1) hibernate-infinispan is able to access infinispan-core classes 2) hibe

Re: [hibernate-dev] Changelog file in Hibernate ORM

2015-05-29 Thread Steve Ebersole
I am only planning to truncate this moving forward. In fact it is already done in master, aside from adding notes about where the 5.0 changes dovetail with 4.3 changes. On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Gail Badner wrote: > I would prefer retaining all bugs fixes that feed into EAP. > > The fir

Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate ORM - next steps

2015-05-29 Thread Steve Ebersole
I think Andy wanted to take a look at developing just the support to references values by position rather than by alias without waiting on the bigger task. I don't think that is possible; at the least it is A LOT of work much of which might change later when we do work on the bigger task. I know

Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate ORM - next steps

2015-05-29 Thread Steve Ebersole
> > * extend JPA criteria API with fluent support (does that mean embracing > something like http://www.querydsl.com ? Os is that something different? I was not the one who brought up "fluency". TBH, I do not remember who brought it up nor what it was about. In regards to Criteria I had wanted

Re: [hibernate-dev] Changelog file in Hibernate ORM

2015-05-29 Thread Gail Badner
I would prefer retaining all bugs fixes that feed into EAP. The first Hibernate version used by EAP was roughly 3.2.4.sp1 (there were a few extra commits included in the version that got into EAP). Are you planning to truncate the change logs for 3.2 or 3.3? If so, it would be helpful to me re

Re: [hibernate-dev] WildFly 10 + Hibernate ORM 5 integration status update...

2015-05-29 Thread Scott Marlow
On 05/29/2015 01:05 PM, Sanne Grinovero wrote: > Thanks Scott! > > 1. this error is expected: HS 5.2 is not compatible with ORM 5. > We'll need a compatible WildFly version to release a compatible > version, or alternatively know how to get the tests to run w/o the > jipijapa patch as I was tryin

Re: [hibernate-dev] WildFly 10 + Hibernate ORM 5 integration status update...

2015-05-29 Thread Sanne Grinovero
Thanks Scott! 1. this error is expected: HS 5.2 is not compatible with ORM 5. We'll need a compatible WildFly version to release a compatible version, or alternatively know how to get the tests to run w/o the jipijapa patch as I was trying ;-) A backup plan is we stop producing Hibernate Search m

Re: [hibernate-dev] WildFly 10 + Hibernate ORM 5 integration status update...

2015-05-29 Thread Scott Marlow
Also am using Infinispan 7.2.1.Final but noticed that Infinispan 7.2.2.Final is now in WildFly 10, so I'll sync my branch with WF master to upgrade Infinispan. On 05/29/2015 12:50 PM, Scott Marlow wrote: > I ran part of the WildFly basic integration tests against the > https://github.com/scottma

[hibernate-dev] WildFly 10 + Hibernate ORM 5 integration status update...

2015-05-29 Thread Scott Marlow
I ran part of the WildFly basic integration tests against the https://github.com/scottmarlow/wildfly/tree/jipijapa3_hibernate5 branch, which includes the following Hibernate versions: ORM 5.0.0.CR1 HCA 4.0.5.Final HS 5.2.0.Final I am seeing the below errors. 1. The Hibernate Search test (org.

Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate ORM - next steps

2015-05-29 Thread John O'Hara
On 20/05/15 02:47, Steve Ebersole wrote: > Now that 5.0 is settling down I wanted to start planning where we go from > here in terms of feature development and schedule/releases. > > Here is my high-level list of features/work: > * rework SQL generation & HQL parser > * change JDBC extraction to wo

Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate ORM - next steps

2015-05-29 Thread Steve Ebersole
That is actually exactly the model I started with 4.x and what I plan on continuing into 5.x On Fri, May 29, 2015, 3:07 AM Emmanuel Bernard wrote: > Also (thinking outloud). > > Maybe planning 5.1 5.2 5.x as a savant dosage of: > > - a focused and useful new feature that users tend to like > (di

Re: [hibernate-dev] HSearch + Tika bridge using Wildfly modules

2015-05-29 Thread Sanne Grinovero
Hi Brett, we don't include all existing analysers and extensions within the WildFly modules. In particular the Apache Tika libraries have a huge amount of dependencies, you should choose the ones you need depending on what kind of media you intend to parse. Include any extension in your "applicati

Re: [hibernate-dev] Changelog file in Hibernate ORM

2015-05-29 Thread andrea boriero
I would mantain all 5.x in the same changelog file and may be the previous one. On 29 May 2015 at 12:32, Sanne Grinovero wrote: > I wouldn't stay awake at night because of that :) maybe only if the > file gets huge? > It's useful for people migrating, but since I doubt someone would > migrate fr

Re: [hibernate-dev] Changelog file in Hibernate ORM

2015-05-29 Thread Sanne Grinovero
I wouldn't stay awake at night because of that :) maybe only if the file gets huge? It's useful for people migrating, but since I doubt someone would migrate from pre-1.0 (at least without expecting to rewrite it all), that's why I suggested to keep from 3.0 onwards. On 29 May 2015 at 12:16, Steve

Re: [hibernate-dev] Changelog file in Hibernate ORM

2015-05-29 Thread Steve Ebersole
So it makes sense to you that the changelog for 5.0 includes entries for pre 1.0? On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 6:09 AM, Sanne Grinovero wrote: > I'm +1 especially to keep the changelog.txt file both maintained and > included. > > About pruning older content: I'd keep the past few years at least, for

Re: [hibernate-dev] Changelog file in Hibernate ORM

2015-05-29 Thread Sanne Grinovero
I'm +1 especially to keep the changelog.txt file both maintained and included. About pruning older content: I'd keep the past few years at least, for sake of who's finally upgrading. Maybe since version 3.0 onwards? Or just keep it all :) On 29 May 2015 at 12:05, Steve Ebersole wrote: > I'm real

Re: [hibernate-dev] Changelog file in Hibernate ORM

2015-05-29 Thread Steve Ebersole
I'm really not sure what y'all are +1'ing Emmanuel and Sanne. You want to keep a massive changelog.txt containing all history forever? On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 5:59 AM, Sanne Grinovero wrote: > On 29 May 2015 at 08:15, Emmanuel Bernard wrote: > > > >> On 28 May 2015, at 10:42, Hardy Ferentschik

Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate ORM - next steps

2015-05-29 Thread Steve Ebersole
Guys "position rather than alias usage in JDBC" is a small part of a massive set of related changes in how we build SQL and consume the results. And actually it is the piece that has any compatibility impact since it means any and all custom Types will need to be re-written. On Fri, May 29, 2015

Re: [hibernate-dev] Changelog file in Hibernate ORM

2015-05-29 Thread Sanne Grinovero
On 29 May 2015 at 08:15, Emmanuel Bernard wrote: > >> On 28 May 2015, at 10:42, Hardy Ferentschik wrote: >> >> On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 10:01:51PM -0400, Brett Meyer wrote: >>> +1 from me. Although, on the other hand, do we really need to keep >>> maintaining that to begin with? I guess I never

Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate ORM - next steps

2015-05-29 Thread Sanne Grinovero
I agree as well :) Just to add a minor twist: - the override to lazy from eager would be useful to Search; skipping fields completely as an extra bonus (something I think ORM can't do at all - for good reasons when it comes to end user API - but again something Search would benefit from and not e

Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate ORM - next steps

2015-05-29 Thread Hardy Ferentschik
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 11:33:22AM -0500, Steve Ebersole wrote: > Anyone have any input here? Or should I just start scheduling them how I > want? I think all goals sound good. I would say schedule as you seem fit, maybe with a focus of giving users something tangible asap (a bit of what Emmanue

Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate ORM - next steps

2015-05-29 Thread Mihalcea Vlad
From a performance perspective, I'm glad we'll be able to override the EAGER fetching on a query-basis. We could have an UNFETCH directive to do the opposite of the current FETCH one. The bytecode enhancement dirty-checking is also a plus.  Vlad On Friday, May 29, 2015 11:09 AM, Emmanue

Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate ORM - next steps

2015-05-29 Thread Emmanuel Bernard
Also (thinking outloud). Maybe planning 5.1 5.2 5.x as a savant dosage of: - a focused and useful new feature that users tend to like (discriminator-based multi-tenancy, fluent criteria API, …) - a performance focused feature (position rather than alias usage in JDBC) - a longer term work plan w

Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate ORM - next steps

2015-05-29 Thread Emmanuel Bernard
My favs are * discriminator-based multi-tenancy * extend JPA criteria API with fluent support (does that mean embracing something like http://www.querydsl.com ? Os is that something different? * rework SQL generation & HQL parser > On 28 May 2015, at 18:33, Steve Ebersole wrote: > > Anyone h

Re: [hibernate-dev] Changelog file in Hibernate ORM

2015-05-29 Thread Emmanuel Bernard
> On 28 May 2015, at 10:42, Hardy Ferentschik wrote: > > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 10:01:51PM -0400, Brett Meyer wrote: >> +1 from me. Although, on the other hand, do we really need to keep >> maintaining that to begin with? I guess I never thought simply having users >> go to the JIRA release