[hibernate-dev] 4.3.0.Beta6 release date

2013-10-08 Thread Steve Ebersole
I tentatively scheduled 4.3.0.Beta6 (which is looking likely to be the first CR) for November 6th which is the 4 week timebox. Trouble is, that this is the day I am scheduled to fly back from Rome. So all in all, this release is likely to happen early or late. __

[hibernate-dev] Logging dependency cleanup

2013-10-08 Thread Steve Ebersole
I thought I remember someone (Brett? Strong?) going through an cleaning up references to logging libraries we no longer use. But I still see entries in libraries.gradle in master for: slf4j_api: "org.slf4j:slf4j-api:${slf4jVersion}", slf4j_log4j12: "org.slf4j:slf4j-lo

Re: [hibernate-dev] [Search] Dynamic sharding configuration

2013-10-08 Thread Emmanuel Bernard
I don't have much stake in the specialized method vs context object debate as indeed the interface is very specialized and prone to changes. But as Sanne mentioned, there are memory pressure consequences if this call is in the hot path. It is correct that the current use of ForDeletion requires to

Re: [hibernate-dev] [Search] Dynamic sharding configuration

2013-10-08 Thread Hardy Ferentschik
On 8 Jan 2013, at 1:38 PM, Sanne Grinovero wrote: > Guys let's put this into perspective. > These arguments I'm hearing against adding a method in a power-user > oriented SPI are way outbalancing the harm they do to the project in > terms of release delays and our very own time, there are defini

Re: [hibernate-dev] [Search] Dynamic sharding configuration

2013-10-08 Thread Sanne Grinovero
Guys let's put this into perspective. These arguments I'm hearing against adding a method in a power-user oriented SPI are way outbalancing the harm they do to the project in terms of release delays and our very own time, there are definitely more interesting issues to dedicate our time on. I appr

Re: [hibernate-dev] [Search] Dynamic sharding configuration

2013-10-08 Thread Gunnar Morling
2013/10/8 Sanne Grinovero > We'll need to time cap this discussion as we're way too late, of > course this will need to be tagged @experimental. > Having said that, let's try to find the best proposal possible by > lunch time, as one of the approaches needs to be merged: it's very > clear that th

Re: [hibernate-dev] [Search] Dynamic sharding configuration

2013-10-08 Thread Hardy Ferentschik
On 8 Jan 2013, at 11:56 AM, Sanne Grinovero wrote: > Having said that, let's try to find the best proposal possible by > lunch time, as one of the approaches needs to be merged: I think we very well could go w/ the current state right now and evolve in future versions. I would like to explore

Re: [hibernate-dev] [Search] Dynamic sharding configuration

2013-10-08 Thread Sanne Grinovero
We'll need to time cap this discussion as we're way too late, of course this will need to be tagged @experimental. Having said that, let's try to find the best proposal possible by lunch time, as one of the approaches needs to be merged: it's very clear that there is big practical value for the use

Re: [hibernate-dev] [Search] Dynamic sharding configuration

2013-10-08 Thread Hardy Ferentschik
On 8 Jan 2013, at 10:08 AM, Gunnar Morling wrote: > I'm not sure whether it has been considered before, but maybe we could unify > the methods and work with a parameter object as a middle ground: It has been. I suggested before to combine the methods. I think it is a good approach, but Sanne

Re: [hibernate-dev] [Search] Dynamic sharding configuration

2013-10-08 Thread Gunnar Morling
Sanne, As you say adding yet another interface makes things even more difficult to grok; So I'd vote for adding the method for the deletion use case to SIP directly. I'm not sure whether it has been considered before, but maybe we could unify the methods and work with a parameter object as a midd