Re: [hibernate-dev] Fwd: [jdf-dev] JBoss Modules dependency vs pain POM dependency + exclusions

2013-06-06 Thread Sanne Grinovero
Hibernate Search has many additional dependencies on top of just ORM.. would the WildFly team be happy with that? I always assumed that would not be considered acceptable. Also with such a solution people won't have flexibility on the version; I know people don't have it with ORM either - unless t

[hibernate-dev] problem running local matrix tests

2013-06-06 Thread Karel Maesen
Hi, I have local database configurations for matrix testing against spatial databases. With HHH-8235 support for matrix testing has been moved into a separate project. Unfortunately, this change broke my matrix tests. I now get this error: Execution failed for task ':hibernate-spatial:matrix

Re: [hibernate-dev] Fwd: [jdf-dev] JBoss Modules dependency vs pain POM dependency + exclusions

2013-06-06 Thread Scott Marlow
On 06/06/2013 11:49 AM, Emmanuel Bernard wrote: > On Thu 2013-06-06 11:31, Scott Marlow wrote: >> >> If the static Hibernate Search module, depends on a static Hibernate >> ORM module in WildFly 8, I think that is fine, but applications >> wouldn't be able to include their own Hibernate Search jars

Re: [hibernate-dev] Fwd: [jdf-dev] JBoss Modules dependency vs pain POM dependency + exclusions

2013-06-06 Thread Emmanuel Bernard
On Thu 2013-06-06 11:31, Scott Marlow wrote: > > If the static Hibernate Search module, depends on a static Hibernate > ORM module in WildFly 8, I think that is fine, but applications > wouldn't be able to include their own Hibernate Search jars (since > the static Hibernate ORM module only sees s

Re: [hibernate-dev] [jdf-dev] JBoss Modules dependency vs pain POM dependency + exclusions

2013-06-06 Thread Emmanuel Bernard
As I explain in the email I forwarded, modules are good on paper but suffer from a few practical problems: I need to manually install them on my deployed server instead of just handing over the JAR. If there was a way to declare a dep from jboss-deployment-structure.xml and get it downloaded from

Re: [hibernate-dev] Fwd: [jdf-dev] JBoss Modules dependency vs pain POM dependency + exclusions

2013-06-06 Thread Scott Marlow
One change that I submitted a WildFly 8 pull request for (https://github.com/wildfly/wildfly/pull/4591), is to combine the Hibernate ORM/envers and JipiJapa integration jars into the same module. This eliminates the 1-1 bi-directional dependency between ORM/JipiJapa integration code that exis

Re: [hibernate-dev] [jdf-dev] JBoss Modules dependency vs pain POM dependency + exclusions

2013-06-06 Thread Sanne Grinovero
are you proposing to remove Hibernate as a Maven dependency? I don't think that's correct. I like the modules approach much better because it has several other benefits, not least that it doesn't push all our dependencies to the application classpath, and also makes the deployment smaller. Did yo

Re: [hibernate-dev] [Blog] Hibernate OGM with Jboss AS 7

2013-06-06 Thread Emmanuel Bernard
I've created a JIRA to publish the modules distro https://hibernate.atlassian.net/browse/OGM-290 On Thu 2013-06-06 11:10, Sanne Grinovero wrote: > Ah right I might be confused with the Search modules as we release > those regularly, and upload to sourceforge as well. > > For OGM I think we should

Re: [hibernate-dev] [jdf-dev] JBoss Modules dependency vs pain POM dependency + exclusions

2013-06-06 Thread Ales Justin
Next time ping me for any issues, as I've done this ages ago for CapeDwarf. :-) On Jun 6, 2013, at 1:37 PM, Emmanuel Bernard wrote: > Below is an email describing the issues i had to get Hibernate Search run in > WildFly / EAP. A possibility to make life easier for Hibernate Search users > in

[hibernate-dev] Fwd: [jdf-dev] JBoss Modules dependency vs pain POM dependency + exclusions

2013-06-06 Thread Emmanuel Bernard
Below is an email describing the issues i had to get Hibernate Search run in WildFly / EAP. A possibility to make life easier for Hibernate Search users in WildFly is as described by Pete to create a hibernate-search-orm-wildfly which marks Hibernate ORM as provided. What do you think? Emmanu

Re: [hibernate-dev] [Blog] Hibernate OGM with Jboss AS 7

2013-06-06 Thread Sanne Grinovero
Ah right I might be confused with the Search modules as we release those regularly, and upload to sourceforge as well. For OGM I think we should do a release, as in the last one the modules where not available yet. (AFAIR as I can't check now) On 6 June 2013 10:17, Guillaume SCHEIBEL wrote: > I

Re: [hibernate-dev] [Blog] Hibernate OGM with Jboss AS 7

2013-06-06 Thread Guillaume SCHEIBEL
I didn't find a direct link to download them (btw, the link to download ogm from sourceforge http://sourceforge.net/projects/hibernate/files/hibernate-ogm/ is pointing to hsearch 4.3 files). May be we could propose (don't know where, ogm download page on hibernate.org or download page of AS 7) the

Re: [hibernate-dev] [Blog] Hibernate OGM with Jboss AS 7

2013-06-06 Thread Sanne Grinovero
Nice post! People don't necessarily have to build the modules from sources, you could put a download link or explain how to unpack them via Maven. On 6 Jun 2013 09:49, "Guillaume SCHEIBEL" wrote: > I'll do better, I'll try with another machine which doesn't know OGM at > all. > > > 2013/6/6 Emman

Re: [hibernate-dev] [Blog] Hibernate OGM with Jboss AS 7

2013-06-06 Thread Emmanuel Bernard
It still has to know about JBoss's nexus or use -s setting-example.xml which will go and look for the snapshot online. And thus be unpredictable. On Thu 2013-06-06 10:44, Guillaume SCHEIBEL wrote: > I'll do better, I'll try with another machine which doesn't know OGM at all. > > > 2013/6/6 Emmanu

Re: [hibernate-dev] [Blog] Hibernate OGM with Jboss AS 7

2013-06-06 Thread Guillaume SCHEIBEL
I'll do better, I'll try with another machine which doesn't know OGM at all. 2013/6/6 Emmanuel Bernard > Well make sure to clean your maven repo cache before you test. Or else > your local cache will contain the snapshot. Likewise, the remote repo > might contain an old snapshot and I dont' thi

Re: [hibernate-dev] [Blog] Hibernate OGM with Jboss AS 7

2013-06-06 Thread Emmanuel Bernard
Well make sure to clean your maven repo cache before you test. Or else your local cache will contain the snapshot. Likewise, the remote repo might contain an old snapshot and I dont' think you can guard against that. On Thu 2013-06-06 10:19, Guillaume SCHEIBEL wrote: > Thanks for your comments. Yo

Re: [hibernate-dev] [Blog] Hibernate OGM with Jboss AS 7

2013-06-06 Thread Guillaume SCHEIBEL
Thanks for your comments. You are right, "not a panacea" is what I meant. For the "mvn clean install" it worth to be tried, I'll keep you up to date on that. Next step, how to write a new datastore provider. Guillaume 2013/6/6 Emmanuel Bernard > Nice :) > > Do you really mean " OGM definitely

Re: [hibernate-dev] [Blog] Hibernate OGM with Jboss AS 7

2013-06-06 Thread Emmanuel Bernard
Nice :) Do you really mean " OGM definitely is a panacea". From your sentence it seems you meant " OGM definitely is not a panacea" > Then just go under %HIBERNATE_OGM_HOME% /hibernate-ogm-modules and > perform a mvn clean install. I suspect that won't work since the other maven modules are not