Re: [hibernate-dev] envers / new metamodel

2012-08-21 Thread Strong Liu
On Aug 22, 2012, at 8:11 AM, Steve Ebersole wrote: > Also, I think how you were expecting beforeMetadataProcessing to happen can't > really happen, but I suspect it is the more direct way to port envers. > > I *think* what you were thinking is to have envers pass along its extra > EntitySourc

Re: [hibernate-dev] (no subject)

2012-08-21 Thread Steve Ebersole
Also, I think how you were expecting beforeMetadataProcessing to happen can't really happen, but I suspect it is the more direct way to port envers. I *think* what you were thinking is to have envers pass along its extra EntitySource/EntityHierarchy stuff. You cannot just simply "add the custo

Re: [hibernate-dev] uniform the "Composite" and "Component"

2012-08-21 Thread Gail Badner
I'm in the process of making these changes... - Original Message - > From: "Steve Ebersole" > To: "Strong Liu" > Cc: "Hibernate hibernate-dev" > Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 6:20:19 AM > Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] uniform the "Composite" and "Component" > > So then change them:) >

Re: [hibernate-dev] Concept of "service availability"

2012-08-21 Thread Steve Ebersole
Everyone else ok with this idea? On Tue 21 Aug 2012 08:27:25 AM CDT, Steve Ebersole wrote: > Not so concerned about shutdown situations. > > More, imagine a custom ConnectionProvider implementation provided by > user. And the use case of upgrading that implementation "in flight". > I think thats

Re: [hibernate-dev] Concept of "service availability"

2012-08-21 Thread Steve Ebersole
Not so concerned about shutdown situations. More, imagine a custom ConnectionProvider implementation provided by user. And the use case of upgrading that implementation "in flight". I think thats the OSGi use case. And not so sure Hibernate should be implementing this self healing. I guess

Re: [hibernate-dev] Concept of "service availability"

2012-08-21 Thread Scott Marlow
On 08/20/2012 11:19 PM, Steve Ebersole wrote: > This ties together a few different discussions that have been going on > simultaneously on the mailing list that I think are all related. > > Right now to configure certain services (select one impl over another) > users generally give the FQN for tha

Re: [hibernate-dev] uniform the "Composite" and "Component"

2012-08-21 Thread Steve Ebersole
So then change them:) On 08/21/2012 03:15 AM, Strong Liu wrote: > for example: > > /** > * Models the notion of a component (what JPA calls an Embeddable). > * > * NOTE : Components are not currently really hierarchical. But that is a > feature I want to add. > * > * @author Steve Ebe

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2012-08-21 Thread Steve Ebersole
Yes, thats what you said in the javadocs ;) What I mean is that we have a use case for one of those. But not the other. So why develop something that we do not have a use case for? On Mon 20 Aug 2012 11:23:14 PM CDT, Strong Liu wrote: > reuse the IntegratorService / ServiceLoader ? > > On Aug

[hibernate-dev] uniform the "Composite" and "Component"

2012-08-21 Thread Strong Liu
for example: /** * Models the notion of a component (what JPA calls an Embeddable). * * NOTE : Components are not currently really hierarchical. But that is a feature I want to add. * * @author Steve Ebersole */ public class Composite extends AbstractAttributeContainer { org.hibernate.me