Re: [hibernate-dev] Fwd: [Hibernate-JIRA] Closed: (HHH-5616) Switch to Gradle for builds

2010-10-11 Thread Steve Ebersole
I should have pointed out some of the basic commands you'll commonly need. All these can be found in the Gradle User Guide: http://www.gradle.org/0.9-rc-1/docs/userguide/userguide_single.html Most of the stuff we are interested in comes from the Java plugin: http://www.gradle.org/0.9- rc-1/doc

[hibernate-dev] Fwd: [Hibernate-JIRA] Closed: (HHH-5616) Switch to Gradle for builds

2010-10-11 Thread Steve Ebersole
I have switched HEAD of hibernate-core to use Gradle for builds. I still need to finish up some tasks, but they mostly deal with the release process for which I created a follow-up issue. You can either install Gradle and use the gradle command, or you can use "gradle wrapper" by using the ./

Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate 4 and the hibernate3.jar file in release bundle

2010-10-11 Thread Steve Ebersole
http://ant.apache.org/ivy/history/2.1.0/tutorial/conf.html Though Max and Emmanuel have far more experience with Ivy than myself. My "knowledge" of Ivy comes solely from Gradle. On Monday, October 11, 2010 02:34:05 am Hardy Ferentschik wrote: > I think Sanne has a good point here. The people wh

Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate 4 and the hibernate3.jar file in release bundle

2010-10-11 Thread Steve Ebersole
You mean like this[1]? Or something more? [1] http://docs.jboss.org/hibernate/core/3.6/quickstart/en-US/html/hibernate- gsg-obtain.html#hibernate-gsg-setup-mavenRepoArtifacts On Monday, October 11, 2010 02:20:11 am Sanne Grinovero wrote: > People loving uber-jars are (in my experience) those who

Re: [hibernate-dev] On possible extensions for the validator

2010-10-11 Thread Federico Mancini
Yes, I completely agree, I didn't mean to suggest to actually replace the annotations with internal code, but only that in this case the advantage of using annotations is reduced to the simple decoupling of validation code form the rest, as it can be obtained with an XML configuration file. A

Re: [hibernate-dev] On possible extensions for the validator

2010-10-11 Thread Hardy Ferentschik
On Wed, 06 Oct 2010 17:53:38 +0200, Federico Mancini wrote: > Class level validation is something we had considered as well, but > discarded it as we considered it in a way "cheating" in our settings. > This because what actually happens, if I understood correctly, is that > the whole objec

Re: [hibernate-dev] GenericConstraintDef extends raw ConstraintDef

2010-10-11 Thread Hardy Ferentschik
Hi, I recommend you create an issue on Jira - http://opensource.atlassian.com/projects/hibernate/browse/HV Defining GenericConstraintDef as you suggest is of course correct. The reason for not using generics was to avoid IDE warnings like "Unchecked call to 'constraintType(Class) ..." I do

Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate 4 and the hibernate3.jar file in release bundle

2010-10-11 Thread Hardy Ferentschik
I think Sanne has a good point here. The people who are already using Maven or Ivy are not in need of a ueber-jar. They (hopefully) already realized that modularized jars are the better approach. I am against continuing the support for a hibernate core ueberjar. I am not sure whether we real

Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate 4 and the hibernate3.jar file in release bundle

2010-10-11 Thread Sanne Grinovero
People loving uber-jars are (in my experience) those who don't have an automated dependency management system, so having special maven artifacts won't help them. It could be useful to document what modules are needed for each use case by providing short descriptions for each jar. Sanne 2010/10/11