Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate 3.5.0.Beta-1 released

2009-09-09 Thread Alex Miller
As another Hibernate cache provider also aiming to be "the best Hibernate second level cache provider" out there, I would be a bit upset by having one anointed in the code as the default. Thank you Steve and Emmanuel for being the voice of reason. Alex Miller Terracotta/Ehcache On 09/09/200

Re: [hibernate-dev] [infinispan-dev] Hibernate 3.5.0.Beta-1 released

2009-09-09 Thread Chris Bredesen
On 09/09/2009 01:09 PM, Sanne Grinovero wrote: > 2009/9/9 Steve Ebersole: >> Again, there is no default cache provider. Â Users must decide which to >> use. > > oh, I'm sorry. There are lots of articles online saying that ehcache > is the default; > did this change recently or have they always been

Re: [hibernate-dev] [infinispan-dev] Hibernate 3.5.0.Beta-1 released

2009-09-09 Thread Emmanuel Bernard
Let me say it for the third time (complementing Steve's first two). There is no default cache provider, a user has to chose one. One of the reasons for this move was that the JPA TCK was having issues with cache systems and multiple initializations. On 9 sept. 09, at 18:58, Steve Ebersole wr

Re: [hibernate-dev] [infinispan-dev] Hibernate 3.5.0.Beta-1 released

2009-09-09 Thread Sanne Grinovero
2009/9/9 Steve Ebersole : > Again, there is no default cache provider.  Users must decide which to > use. oh, I'm sorry. There are lots of articles online saying that ehcache is the default; did this change recently or have they always been wrong? Wouldn't it make sense to make Infinispan the def

Re: [hibernate-dev] [infinispan-dev] Hibernate 3.5.0.Beta-1 released

2009-09-09 Thread Steve Ebersole
Again, there is no default cache provider. Users must decide which to use. On Wed, 2009-09-09 at 11:42 -0500, Sanne Grinovero wrote: > I'd like to see Infinispan as default cache provider, AFAIK ehcache is > the default now. > > IMHO the default is to some extend a recommendation to the users, a

Re: [hibernate-dev] [infinispan-dev] Hibernate 3.5.0.Beta-1 released

2009-09-09 Thread Sanne Grinovero
I'd like to see Infinispan as default cache provider, AFAIK ehcache is the default now. IMHO the default is to some extend a recommendation to the users, at least that's how I perceived it when I was new to hibernate: "if they have chosen it, it must be good". It would need however to be able to

Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate 3.5.0.Beta-1 released

2009-09-09 Thread Galder Zamarreno
Steve, taking in account that at least in the community version you ship a few different cache providers (correct me if I'm wrong), what about putting something in the Hibernate docs where you recommend using Infinispan? i.e. "Infinispan is the recommended 2LC provider" On 08/31/2009 06:02 PM,