Re: How/When will guix pull stop to compile the 616 files?

2017-08-08 Thread Alex Sassmannshausen
Hi Paul Paul Dufresne writes: > Ok, I was able to make a guix pull without compiling the 616 files. > > But I just done it again, and it seems to compile the full 616 files > each time a commit is done... > I think. This is right — guix pull will download (now via git) the latest available snaps

Re: How/When will guix pull stop to compile the 616 files?

2017-08-08 Thread Paul Dufresne
I try to get to the way/vocabulary you use. It takes 45 mins. on my relatively old dual core to guix-pull (would say 95% of the time compiling). The way I begin to see it, the problem seems that guix-system itself seems to be considered as latest-drv derivation. I guess I would have prefer that t

Re: Where's many of the system logs?

2017-08-08 Thread RoundDuck Man
Let me try again, this time posting to the main list too... I'm meaning logs like auth.log or syslog. Some logs are in /var/log, but many of the major ones, like lastlog, syslog, and auth.log arr missing. Are the logs different in GuixSD like with systemd's journal? On Aug 8, 2017 10:01 AM, "Le

Re: Where's many of the system logs?

2017-08-08 Thread Ricardo Wurmus
RoundDuck Man writes: > Let me try again, this time posting to the main list too... > > I'm meaning logs like auth.log or syslog. Some logs are in /var/log, but > many of the major ones, like lastlog, syslog, and auth.log arr missing. Are > the logs different in GuixSD like with systemd's journa

Re: How/When will guix pull stop to compile the 616 files?

2017-08-08 Thread Ricardo Wurmus
Paul Dufresne writes: > It takes 45 mins. on my relatively old dual core to guix-pull Yeah, this isn’t great. Since 0.13.0 compilation is slower and requires a whole lot more memory. That’s a known problem. There are some ideas to reduce the amount of compilation that has to happen locally,

Re: Where's many of the system logs?

2017-08-08 Thread RoundDuck Man
Oooh. Are they binary or text? On Aug 8, 2017 4:21 PM, "Ricardo Wurmus" wrote: > > RoundDuck Man writes: > > > Let me try again, this time posting to the main list too... > > > > I'm meaning logs like auth.log or syslog. Some logs are in /var/log, but > > many of the major ones, like lastlog, s

Re: How/When will guix pull stop to compile the 616 files?

2017-08-08 Thread Jack Hill
On Tue, 8 Aug 2017, Ricardo Wurmus wrote: Paul Dufresne writes: It takes 45 mins. on my relatively old dual core to guix-pull Yeah, this isn’t great. Since 0.13.0 compilation is slower and requires a whole lot more memory. That’s a known problem. There are some ideas to reduce the amoun

Re: How/When will guix pull stop to compile the 616 files?

2017-08-08 Thread Paul Dufresne
Jack asked: > Could building be avoided entirely with substitutes? Are substitutes not > appropriate for some reason, or is it just that substitutes are not > produced on Hydra for every guix commit? Now, I feel dumb for not having thought to ask that question!