Re: some questions about GUIX

2016-01-01 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Sam Halliday skribis: > As a Java / Scala developer, I avoid all repackaged jars unless they > contain a bug or security fix. I don't see why I should trust a package > manager (and their machines), who are self-confessed non-experts, more > than the original author of that library, who has GPG s

Re: some questions about GUIX

2015-12-31 Thread Sam Halliday
Leo Famulari writes: > Our goal is to build everything from source. OK, that helps me to understand why you are doing things the way you are doing it. Indeed, this means that your efforts are incompatible with my original hope: that guix would make packaging of Java applications significantly eas

Re: some questions about GUIX

2015-12-31 Thread Ricardo Wurmus
Sam Halliday writes: > Thanks Ricardo, > > Ricardo Wurmus writes: >> I’m not sure I understand what you mean here. I have been packaging a >> couple of Java things and the reliance on prebuilt jars and Maven >> causes quite a few problems. This is the single most important reason >> why there is

Re: some questions about GUIX

2015-12-31 Thread Ricardo Wurmus
Sam Halliday writes: > Does this mean that you have a GUIX package for every jar? Some packages may provide more than one jar archive. This depends on what the build system prescribes. For every *project* there will be at least one jar, though. > If so, can > you have multiple versions of th

Re: some questions about GUIX

2015-12-30 Thread Leo Famulari
On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 09:02:53PM -0500, Leo Famulari wrote: > On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 01:36:12PM +, Sam Halliday wrote: > > Hi Ricardo, > > > > I have a few more questions about your proposed jar packaging. > > > > > Ricardo Wurmus writes: > > > We are building library for library as indiv

Re: some questions about GUIX

2015-12-30 Thread Leo Famulari
On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 01:36:12PM +, Sam Halliday wrote: > Hi Ricardo, > > I have a few more questions about your proposed jar packaging. > > Ricardo Wurmus writes: > > We are building library for library as individual packages in Guix. We > > certainly won’t bundle prebuilt jars from Maven

Re: some questions about GUIX

2015-12-30 Thread Sam Halliday
Hi Ricardo, I have a few more questions about your proposed jar packaging. Ricardo Wurmus writes: > We are building library for library as individual packages in Guix. We > certainly won’t bundle prebuilt jars from Maven if it can be avoided > at all. Does this mean that you have a GUIX package

Re: some questions about GUIX

2015-12-29 Thread Sam Halliday
Thanks Ricardo, Ricardo Wurmus writes: > I’m not sure I understand what you mean here. I have been packaging a > couple of Java things and the reliance on prebuilt jars and Maven > causes quite a few problems. This is the single most important reason > why there isn’t much of Java to be found in G

Re: some questions about GUIX

2015-12-29 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Ricardo Wurmus skribis: > Sam Halliday writes: > >> Ludovic Courtès writes: [...] >>> Guix’s build daemon uses containers to perform isolated builds: >>> >>> http://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/html_node/Features.html >> >> Interesting. I wonder if you wouldn't benefit from a docker / d

Re: some questions about GUIX

2015-12-29 Thread Leo Famulari
On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 08:11:55PM +0100, Ricardo Wurmus wrote: > > Sam Halliday writes: > > > Ludovic Courtès writes: > >>> * Issue tracker / comm channels > >>> > >>> Will you be continuing to use debbugs, savannah and mailing lists going > >>> forward or would you consider moving to a modern

Re: some questions about GUIX

2015-12-29 Thread Ricardo Wurmus
Sam Halliday writes: > Ludovic Courtès writes: >>> * Integration with existing software distribution managers >>> >>> How are you planning on handling these more modern languages that >>> manage their own dependencies? >> >> Currently, we import those languages’ dependency trees into the Guix >

Re: some questions about GUIX

2015-12-29 Thread Sam Halliday
Thanks Ludovic, Ludovic Courtès writes: >> * Integration with existing software distribution managers >> >> How are you planning on handling these more modern languages that >> manage their own dependencies? > > Currently, we import those languages’ dependency trees into the Guix > dependency tre

Re: some questions about GUIX

2015-12-29 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hi, Sam Halliday skribis: > * Integration with existing software distribution managers [...] > How are you planning on handling these more modern languages that manage > their own dependencies? Currently, we import those languages’ dependency trees into the Guix dependency tree, and so some a

some questions about GUIX

2015-12-28 Thread Sam Halliday
Dear GUIX-SD, I am interested in this initiative because it is the GNU distribution and also because there is the possibility to address some major technical problems I have with current GNU / Linux distributions. I have several questions, and I would appreciate it if you could attempt to answer