Re: SDP support for Hadoop RPC

2013-10-10 Thread Luke Lu
0.20.2 is too old. The current stable release of hadoop is 1.2.1. Anyway, for 0.20.2, you probably need -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true as well, which is already set for Hadoop 1+. BTW, you'll need to set all these in mapred.child.java.opts as well. On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 5:12 AM, Yasin Celik

Re: SDP support for Hadoop RPC

2013-10-10 Thread Yasin Celik
Hi Luke, I actually tested hadoop RPC using SDP. But it did not work for me. I used hadoop-core 0.20.2 Following is the error I received: java.io.IOException: Address family not supported by protocol at sun.net.sdp.SdpSupport. convert0(Native Method) at sun.net.sdp.SdpSupport.convertSocke

Re: SDP support for Hadoop RPC

2013-10-10 Thread Steve Loughran
On 10 October 2013 09:00, Luke Lu wrote: > Hadoop works with Java 7, which has builtin SDP support. You'll need to > pass SDP related properties (-Dcom.sun.sdp.conf=your_sdp.conf) to hadoop > JVMs via env var HADOOP_OPTS. > > One caveat of SDP is the 64KB message size (performance cliff beyond 64

Re: SDP support for Hadoop RPC

2013-10-10 Thread Luke Lu
Hadoop works with Java 7, which has builtin SDP support. You'll need to pass SDP related properties (-Dcom.sun.sdp.conf=your_sdp.conf) to hadoop JVMs via env var HADOOP_OPTS. One caveat of SDP is the 64KB message size (performance cliff beyond 64KB), which _should_ work with default hadoop config,

Re: SDP support for Hadoop RPC

2013-10-09 Thread Milind Bhandarkar
I cannot believe i made the same mistake twice, of reply-to to mailing list. I need to get off the outlook client. once again, sorry folks. this was supposed to go to steve's personal email. - milind Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 9, 2013, at 8:47, Suresh Srinivas wrote: > > Milind, please sto

Re: SDP support for Hadoop RPC

2013-10-09 Thread Suresh Srinivas
Milind, please stop this. The topic here is not what Steve's employers wants to sell or recommend. Please stick to the technical issue. This is the second time this week where a thread unnecessarily goes beyond technical issues. If you have an axe to grind, please keep it off this forum. It is gett

Re: SDP support for Hadoop RPC

2013-10-09 Thread Milind Bhandarkar
No, Steve, I meant exactly what I wrote. One day, when you are here, Let's meet in the same chinese restaurant, and I will give you the numbers on performance and cost, and let us do the division of these two numbers. Let's talk about how the nn latency becomes a bottleneck for rest of the clus

Re: SDP support for Hadoop RPC

2013-10-09 Thread Steve Loughran
oops, didn't finish a sentence: On 9 October 2013 09:45, Steve Loughran wrote: > > > > IB should be most interesting at the app level -for apps > classic MR. > That's giraph, streaming work, Tez. I'd like to see some numbers there. As > the oracle > As the oracle exadata appliance has IB, ther

Re: SDP support for Hadoop RPC

2013-10-09 Thread Steve Loughran
On 9 October 2013 01:57, Milind Bhandarkar wrote: > Yes, we have. It works very well, but it is considered too niche by folks > who insist on buying the least capable hardware for their test clusters, > and therefore, recommend such underpowered clusters to customers as well. > surely you meant

Re: SDP support for Hadoop RPC

2013-10-08 Thread Milind Bhandarkar
Have you checked out Mellanox's UDA ? There have been a lot of efforts from RoCE providers to get Hadoop optimized implementations with modern networking hardware. Even RedHat has announced HPN (High Performance Networking) interfaces to allow modern networks. It might take a few years to get ther

Re: SDP support for Hadoop RPC

2013-10-08 Thread Yasin Celik
Hello How do you get hadoop worked with infiniband? Do you use SDP? I only need to use RPC of hadoop for now. Any help on how to get it worked? Thanks Yasin On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 8:57 PM, Milind Bhandarkar wrote: > Yes, we have. It works very well, but it is considered too niche by folks > w

Re: SDP support for Hadoop RPC

2013-10-08 Thread Milind Bhandarkar
Yes, we have. It works very well, but it is considered too niche by folks who insist on buying the least capable hardware for their test clusters, and therefore, recommend such underpowered clusters to customers as well. - milind > On Oct 8, 2013, at 16:49, Yasin Celik wrote: > > Hello, > >

Fwd: SDP support for Hadoop RPC

2013-10-08 Thread Yasin Celik
Hello, I looked around but I think it seems there is no Sockets Direct Protocol(SDP) support in Hadoop RPC. I basically want to take advantage of Infiniband when transferring data. Is there any known support for this? Has anybody tried this before? Best - Yasin Celik