Re: [DISCUSS] Changing the default class path for clients

2017-04-03 Thread Andrew Wang
Thanks for digging that up. I agree with your analysis of our public documentation, though we still need a transition path. Officially, our classpath is not covered by compatibility, though we know that in reality, classpath changes are quite impactful to users. While we were having a related disc

Re: [DISCUSS] Changing the default class path for clients

2017-04-03 Thread Allen Wittenauer
1.0.4: "Prints the class path needed to get the Hadoop jar and the required libraries.” 2.8.0 and 3.0.0: "Prints the class path needed to get the Hadoop jar and the required libraries. If called without arguments, then prints the classpath set up by the command scripts, whic

Re: [DISCUSS] Changing the default class path for clients

2017-04-03 Thread Esteban Gutierrez
I agreed with Andrew too. Users have relied for years on `hadoop classpath` for their script to launch jobs or other tools, perhaps no the best idea to change the behavior without providing a proper deprecation path. thanks! esteban. -- Cloudera, Inc. On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 10:26 AM, Andrew Wan

Re: [DISCUSS] Changing the default class path for clients

2017-04-03 Thread Andrew Wang
What's the current contract for `hadoop classpath`? Would it be safer to introduce `hadoop userclasspath` or similar for this behavior? I'm betting that changing `hadoop classpath` will lead to some breakages, so I'd prefer to make this new behavior opt-in. Best, Andrew On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 9: