Re: [Haskell-cafe] The Haskell re-branding exercise

2009-02-12 Thread Gregg Reynolds
On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: > >> A call has gone out < >> http://www.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell-cafe/2008-December/051836.html> >> for a new logo for Haskell. Candidates (including a couple < >> http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Image:Haskell-lo

Re: [Haskell-cafe] The Haskell re-branding exercise

2009-02-10 Thread Eelco Lempsink
On 7 feb 2009, at 22:40, Don Stewart wrote: bulat.ziganshin: Hello Don, Saturday, February 7, 2009, 8:20:23 PM, you wrote: We need a voting site set up. There was some progress prior to the end of the year. Updates welcome! i think that there are a lot of free voting/survey services ava

Re: [Haskell-cafe] The Haskell re-branding exercise

2009-02-09 Thread Richard Kelsall
Don Stewart wrote: Help identifying and implementing a voting process is very welcome. Maybe we could have an administrator who receives the votes by email and we confirm our emailed vote by appending the MD5 of our email to a Haskell wiki page. The machine-readable email format might be: I vo

Re: [Haskell-cafe] The Haskell re-branding exercise

2009-02-08 Thread Don Stewart
> >> Furthermore, since I assume we'll only be presenting reasonable logos, > >> there's not even some room for pranksters to stage a "write-in" of some > >> gag slogan. > > > > Right, only a subset of previously submitted ones. > > > > -- Don > > So does this mean no 'haskell YEEHH!'? Is

Re: [Haskell-cafe] The Haskell re-branding exercise

2009-02-08 Thread Gwern Branwen
On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Don Stewart wrote: > s.clover: >> IP based limitations are a terrible idea. Multiple users can be and >> often are behind the same IP if they're in some sort of intranet, be it >> corporate, academic, or simply multiple home computers. Mail-based >> authentication c

Re: [Haskell-cafe] The Haskell re-branding exercise

2009-02-08 Thread Don Stewart
s.clover: > IP based limitations are a terrible idea. Multiple users can be and > often are behind the same IP if they're in some sort of intranet, be it > corporate, academic, or simply multiple home computers. Mail-based > authentication can be screwed with, sure, but it's also very easy to

Re: [Haskell-cafe] The Haskell re-branding exercise

2009-02-08 Thread Sterling Clover
IP based limitations are a terrible idea. Multiple users can be and often are behind the same IP if they're in some sort of intranet, be it corporate, academic, or simply multiple home computers. Mail-based authentication can be screwed with, sure, but it's also very easy to notice this (as

Re: [Haskell-cafe] The Haskell re-branding exercise

2009-02-08 Thread Gwern Branwen
On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Max Rabkin wrote: > On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Gwern Branwen wrote: >> We should limit voting, and limit based on IP. If we go via email, >> then anyone wishing extra votes merely needs to use mailinator.com >> (and its dozens of alternate domain names, to sa

Re: [Haskell-cafe] The Haskell re-branding exercise

2009-02-08 Thread Max Rabkin
On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Gwern Branwen wrote: > We should limit voting, and limit based on IP. If we go via email, > then anyone wishing extra votes merely needs to use mailinator.com > (and its dozens of alternate domain names, to say nothing of > competitors providing similar services) to

Re: [Haskell-cafe] The Haskell re-branding exercise

2009-02-08 Thread Gwern Branwen
On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Don Stewart wrote: > bulat.ziganshin: >> Hello Don, >> >> Saturday, February 7, 2009, 8:20:23 PM, you wrote: >> >> > We need a voting site set up. There was some progress prior to the end >> > of the year. Updates welcome! >> >> i think that there are a lot of free

Re: [Haskell-cafe] The Haskell re-branding exercise

2009-02-07 Thread Don Stewart
bulat.ziganshin: > Hello Don, > > Saturday, February 7, 2009, 8:20:23 PM, you wrote: > > > We need a voting site set up. There was some progress prior to the end > > of the year. Updates welcome! > > i think that there are a lot of free voting/survey services available. > the last one i went thr

Re: [Haskell-cafe] The Haskell re-branding exercise

2009-02-07 Thread Don Stewart
gwern0: > 2009/2/7 Don Stewart : > > Quite so, biased by the fact that they dropped off the page. > > > > I'm not saying reddit is unsuitable for communal decision making -- I've > > thought hard about this -- just that isn't perfect, and this isn't > > really its purpose. It would make a good back

Re: [Haskell-cafe] The Haskell re-branding exercise

2009-02-07 Thread Gwern Branwen
2009/2/7 Don Stewart : > Quite so, biased by the fact that they dropped off the page. > > I'm not saying reddit is unsuitable for communal decision making -- I've > thought hard about this -- just that isn't perfect, and this isn't > really its purpose. It would make a good backup if we can't find

Re: [Haskell-cafe] The Haskell re-branding exercise

2009-02-07 Thread Don Stewart
gwern0: > On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Don Stewart wrote: > > gwern0: > >> On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Don Stewart wrote: > >> >Oh, we had a long discussion about the need for condorcet voting, > >> >not a system like the reddit which is prone to abuse. > >> > > >> >Also, it wo

Re: [Haskell-cafe] The Haskell re-branding exercise

2009-02-07 Thread Gwern Branwen
On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Don Stewart wrote: > gwern0: >> On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Don Stewart wrote: >> >Oh, we had a long discussion about the need for condorcet voting, >> >not a system like the reddit which is prone to abuse. >> > >> >Also, it would be good to have th

Re: [Haskell-cafe] The Haskell re-branding exercise

2009-02-07 Thread Don Stewart
gwern0: > On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Don Stewart wrote: > >Oh, we had a long discussion about the need for condorcet voting, > >not a system like the reddit which is prone to abuse. > > > >Also, it would be good to have the images inline. > > Perfect, please meet better. Better,

[Haskell-cafe] The Haskell re-branding exercise

2009-02-07 Thread Gwern Branwen
On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Don Stewart wrote: >Oh, we had a long discussion about the need for condorcet voting, >not a system like the reddit which is prone to abuse. > >Also, it would be good to have the images inline. Perfect, please meet better. Better, perfect. Now get along

Re[2]: [Haskell-cafe] The Haskell re-branding exercise

2009-02-07 Thread Bulat Ziganshin
Hello Don, Saturday, February 7, 2009, 8:20:23 PM, you wrote: > We need a voting site set up. There was some progress prior to the end > of the year. Updates welcome! i think that there are a lot of free voting/survey services available. the last one i went through was LimeSurvey available for a

Re: [Haskell-cafe] The Haskell re-branding exercise

2009-02-07 Thread Don Stewart
Oh, we had a long discussion about the need for condorcet voting, not a system like the reddit which is prone to abuse. Also, it would be good to have the images inline. wagner.andrew: > Um, ok. Glad we could "discuss" it > > On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Don Stewart wrote: >

Re: [Haskell-cafe] The Haskell re-branding exercise

2009-02-07 Thread Andrew Wagner
Um, ok. Glad we could "discuss" it On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Don Stewart wrote: > wagner.andrew: > > > > We need a voting site set up. There was some progress prior to the > end > > of the year. Updates welcome! > > > > -- Don > > > > Can't we just use the haskell proposal redd

Re: [Haskell-cafe] The Haskell re-branding exercise

2009-02-07 Thread Don Stewart
wagner.andrew: > > We need a voting site set up. There was some progress prior to the end > of the year. Updates welcome! > > -- Don > > Can't we just use the haskell proposal reddit for this? Hmm... not ideal. Would make a backup should all else fail. __

Re: [Haskell-cafe] The Haskell re-branding exercise

2009-02-07 Thread Andrew Wagner
> We need a voting site set up. There was some progress prior to the end > of the year. Updates welcome! > > -- Don > > Can't we just use the haskell proposal reddit for this? ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/m

Re: [Haskell-cafe] The Haskell re-branding exercise

2009-02-07 Thread Don Stewart
paul: > Paul Johnson wrote: >> A call has gone out >> >> for a new logo for Haskell. Candidates (including a couple >> >> of mine >>

Re: [Haskell-cafe] The Haskell re-branding exercise

2009-02-07 Thread Paul Johnson
Paul Johnson wrote: A call has gone out for a new logo for Haskell. Candidates (including a couple of mine

Re: [Haskell-cafe] The Haskell re-branding exercise

2008-12-23 Thread Don Stewart
eelco: > On 21 dec 2008, at 22:26, Sebastian Sylvan wrote: > >I am very shortly travelling abroad for several weeks and will not > >have (reliable access to) a computer, but isn't this a task for one > >of the haskell web-apps people (HSP, HAppS, Turbinado, etc.) to show > >us once and for al

Re: [Haskell-cafe] The Haskell re-branding exercise

2008-12-22 Thread Eelco Lempsink
On 22 dec 2008, at 19:14, Loup Vaillant wrote: 2008/12/22 Eelco Lempsink : Hmm, right. I started on a thing in HAppS. See http://github.com/eelco/voting/ for the source code (contributors more than welcome!) and http://code.tupil.com/voting/ for a live demo. It relies heavily on javascrip

Re: [Haskell-cafe] The Haskell re-branding exercise

2008-12-22 Thread Isaac Dupree
(responding with just a bit of possibly relevant context, not always directly) Paul Johnson wrote: I've lived through a couple of corporate rebranding exercises in my time, and I've read about some others. They follow a pattern: ... 2. The new branding is released with as much fanfare as p

Re: [Haskell-cafe] The Haskell re-branding exercise

2008-12-22 Thread Loup Vaillant
2008/12/22 Eelco Lempsink : > Hmm, right. I started on a thing in HAppS. See > http://github.com/eelco/voting/ for the source code (contributors more than > welcome!) and http://code.tupil.com/voting/ for a live demo. It relies > heavily on javascript, needs some work on the UI and there are a l

Re: [Haskell-cafe] The Haskell re-branding exercise

2008-12-22 Thread Eelco Lempsink
On 21 dec 2008, at 22:26, Sebastian Sylvan wrote: I am very shortly travelling abroad for several weeks and will not have (reliable access to) a computer, but isn't this a task for one of the haskell web-apps people (HSP, HAppS, Turbinado, etc.) to show us once and for all why *their* librar

Re: [Haskell-cafe] The Haskell re-branding exercise

2008-12-21 Thread ajb
G'day all. Quoting Sebastian Sylvan : Personally I find the current logo horrendous. I think it's ugly and intimidating at the same time. I don't really care too much which one of the proposals should win, just so long as I can weed out some of the ones I really hate. I guess this is one diff

Re: [Haskell-cafe] The Haskell re-branding exercise

2008-12-21 Thread Don Stewart
kili: > On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 01:23:33PM -0800, Don Stewart wrote: > > Would you be willing to set up a little online voting system (or do you > > know of one) so we can implement this? > > > > Assume there'll be < 10 candidates. > > What about www.doodle.com? That looks like it might be an op

Re: [Haskell-cafe] The Haskell re-branding exercise

2008-12-21 Thread Matthias Kilian
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 01:23:33PM -0800, Don Stewart wrote: > Would you be willing to set up a little online voting system (or do you > know of one) so we can implement this? > > Assume there'll be < 10 candidates. What about www.doodle.com? Ciao, Kili __

Re: [Haskell-cafe] The Haskell re-branding exercise

2008-12-21 Thread Sebastian Sylvan
I am very shortly travelling abroad for several weeks and will not have (reliable access to) a computer, but isn't this a task for one of the haskell web-apps people (HSP, HAppS, Turbinado, etc.) to show us once and for all why *their* library is better than the competition? :-) On Sun, Dec 21, 200

Re: [Haskell-cafe] The Haskell re-branding exercise

2008-12-21 Thread Don Stewart
Would you be willing to set up a little online voting system (or do you know of one) so we can implement this? Assume there'll be < 10 candidates. -- Don sylvan: >2008/12/21 Paul Johnson <[1]p...@cogito.org.uk> > > This suggests that the current effort to find a new logo for Haskell >

Re: [Haskell-cafe] The Haskell re-branding exercise

2008-12-21 Thread Sebastian Sylvan
2008/12/21 Paul Johnson > > > > This suggests that the current effort to find a new logo for Haskell needs > to go back to the basics. Its no good expecting consensus on one of the > suggestions because there are too many options and everyone has their > favourite. Nothing will attract a majori

Re: [Haskell-cafe] The Haskell re-branding exercise

2008-12-21 Thread Don Stewart
Wonderful, Paul. Could you add your list of adjectives to the wiki page. Note that the initial "deadline" was Dec 31, after which time we can filter out dupes and narrow down the logos to about 5 or so different directions to have a vote on. Anything you can do to help direct or improve quality is

[Haskell-cafe] The Haskell re-branding exercise

2008-12-21 Thread Paul Johnson
A call has gone out for a new logo for Haskell.  Candidates (including a couple of mine) are accumulating here.  There has also been a long thread on the Haskell Cafe mailing list. I've lived through a couple of corporate rebranding exercises in my time, and I've read about some others.  They