> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Vincent Hanquez wrote:
>>
>>
>> I think cute is good enough, and heathmatlock's lamb da, a good and simple
>> name with a funny pun, definitely made me smile, and hope that's something i
>> see on haskell tshirts soon ;-)
>
> Done.
>
> http://open.spreadshirt.co
2011/11/25 Richard O'Keefe :
>
> I could never in my whole life draw as well as that.
> But they are *skittles*, just like Lamb Da.
> Cute. Stiff. Lifeless. Easy to knock over.
> Reminds me of a salt shaker and pepper pot of my mother's.
>
> The collar's good, but
> the lambda is just pasted on f
On 23/11/2011, at 4:40 AM, Karol Samborski wrote:
> And what about a cat? The cat is associated with elegance and a kind of magic.
> Please take a look: http://origami.bieszczady.pl/images/kot.png
I could never in my whole life draw as well as that.
But they are *skittles*, just like Lamb Da.
Cu
Am Mittwoch, den 16.11.2011, 10:46 +0100 schrieb Bas van Dijk:
> Is ⊥ the right symbol to express the non-strict evaluation of the
> language? Is it true that non-strict evaluation requires that ⊥
> inhabits every type?
In typical strict languages, ⊥ also inhabits every type. The difference
is tha
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Ivan Lazar Miljenovic <
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> On 24 November 2011 09:10, David Barbour wrote:
> > I don't like the lamb at all.
> > But I like the idea of a language mascot. I really like Adam Chlipala's
> > spidurweb:
>
> That to me is more of a log
On 24 November 2011 09:10, David Barbour wrote:
> I don't like the lamb at all.
> But I like the idea of a language mascot. I really like Adam Chlipala's
> spidurweb:
That to me is more of a logo than a mascot.
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I don't like the lamb at all.
But I like the idea of a language mascot. I really like Adam Chlipala's
spidurweb:
http://www.impredicative.com/ur/
Maybe a lambdacat can volunteer. ;-)
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On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 12:31 PM, heathmatlock wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 1:44 AM, Moritz Fischer
> wrote:
>
>> If you want people to identify even faster with Da, start by uploading
>> some CC licenced SVGs. One thing that helps a lot imho is to allow other
>> people to be creative with it
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 1:44 AM, Moritz Fischer wrote:
> If you want people to identify even faster with Da, start by uploading
> some CC licenced SVGs. One thing that helps a lot imho is to allow other
> people to be creative with it, too.
>
>
Done.
Darcs: https://patch-tag.com/r/heath/Haskell-M
> From: Michael Orlitzky
>
> On 11/22/11 16:52, heathmatlock wrote:
>> Wasn't planning on it, but I saw some emails on the topic, so I worked
>> on what I presented earlier:
>
> Anyway, creative design-by-committee is doomed, so my advice is to
> ignore this and all other advice =)
+1
(The knigh
Hi there,
On 11/23/2011 08:30 AM, heathmatlock wrote:
I like it but ...
I'm paid $1 per item sold, some items are costs more than others.
If you want people to identify even faster with Da, start by uploading
some CC licenced SVGs. One thing that helps a lot imho is to allow other
people t
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 12:48 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On 11/22/11 16:52, heathmatlock wrote:
>
> I liked him more back when he was called Curry. That he is a lamb is a
> cute play on words. But for me, "The Lamb Da" was facepalm-inducing
> because it seems like it's trying too hard to maximi
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Vincent Hanquez wrote:
>
>
> I think cute is good enough, and heathmatlock's lamb da, a good and simple
> name with a funny pun, definitely made me smile, and hope that's something
> i see on haskell tshirts soon ;-)
Done.
http://open.spreadshirt.com
I was a l
On 11/22/11 16:52, heathmatlock wrote:
> Wasn't planning on it, but I saw some emails on the topic, so I worked
> on what I presented earlier:
I liked him more back when he was called Curry. That he is a lamb is a
cute play on words. But for me, "The Lamb Da" was facepalm-inducing
because it seems
On 11/22/11 8:22 PM, Albert Y. C. Lai wrote:
On 11-11-22 12:22 AM, Jeremy Shaw wrote:
- weak and needing protection
- easily lead astray
- being lead to the slaughter
- dumb and easily lost
A lamb-in-arms is the antithesis to all those. It stands up with
determination and might against mainstr
On 11-11-22 12:22 AM, Jeremy Shaw wrote:
A mascot is supposed to represent characteristics, emotions, or
desires that a particular group of people aspire to have, be like,
etc. To outsiders, it provides a quick way to see if it might be a
group they would like to belong to, and for insiders, it h
Here are some examples of how the mascot can be used on the wiki:
http://imgur.com/a/Hu1ve
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On 22 November 2011 13:22, Jeremy Shaw wrote:
> Sheep are generally thought of as:
>
> - weak and needing protection
> - easily lead astray
> - being lead to the slaughter
> - dumb and easily lost
Cool, so Haskell is made for people like me!
> I think Haskeller's like Haskell because it is:
For some reason, I can't rest until this is done, so here's the larger
images (with corrections):
http://imgur.com/a/CTFJZ
There's a download button on the top-right of the thumbnail if you want to
observe the lamb up close.
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I really love the idea of Haskell having a mascot, and Da the Lamb seems a
perfect one to me.
2011/11/22 heathmatlock
> I goofed on a few images, but I'm a bit tired to correct them at the
> moment. Also, I'll upload higher res images another time, they don't look
> terrible up close.
>
>
> On T
I goofed on a few images, but I'm a bit tired to correct them at the
moment. Also, I'll upload higher res images another time, they don't look
terrible up close.
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 3:52 PM, heathmatlock wrote:
> Wasn't planning on it, but I saw some emails on the topic, so I worked on
> what
Wasn't planning on it, but I saw some emails on the topic, so I worked on
what I presented earlier:
http://imgur.com/a/yIUOA
A favicon is attached as well, it probably could use more work.
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On 11/22/2011 05:22 AM, Jeremy Shaw wrote:
I think the artwork is nice, but I am not sure that a lamb is an
appropriate mascot for Haskell.
I disagree as well. I think you're looking too much into what a mascot should
means; looking at others mascot, linux's tux, freebsd's demon, go lang's
thi
On 22 Nov 2011, at 15:40, Karol Samborski wrote:
> And what about a cat? The cat is associated with elegance and a kind of magic.
> Please take a look: http://origami.bieszczady.pl/images/kot.png
My biggest criticism of the more recent ones is simply not to get carried away
with magic haskell ex
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Karol Samborski wrote:
> And what about a cat? The cat is associated with elegance and a kind of magic.
> Please take a look: http://origami.bieszczady.pl/images/kot.png
>
> Best,
> Karol Samborski
That's true, and I did think of it. But I don't think it's distinc
And what about a cat? The cat is associated with elegance and a kind of magic.
Please take a look: http://origami.bieszczady.pl/images/kot.png
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On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Karol Samborski wrote:
> 2011/11/21 Karol Samborski :
>> Hi all,
>>
>> This is my sister's proposition:
>> http://origami.bieszczady.pl/images/The_Lamb_Da.png
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>
> Second version: http://origami.bieszczady.pl/images/The_Lamb_Da2.png
>
> B
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 6:22 AM, Jeremy Shaw wrote:
> I think the artwork is nice, but I am not sure that a lamb is an
> appropriate mascot for Haskell.
>
> A mascot is supposed to represent characteristics, emotions, or
> desires that a particular group of people aspire to have, be like,
> etc. T
serialhex writes:
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 12:22 AM, Jeremy Shaw wrote:
>
>> - honey badger - can't beat that for 'robust' and 'fearless',
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPKlryXwmXk
> i think you were referring to this vid:
Original channel with lots of other animals and similar
commentar
Thank you all for appreciate my sister's work. I will send her your
comments and then will see :)
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On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 12:22 AM, Jeremy Shaw wrote:
> - honey badger - can't beat that for 'robust' and 'fearless',
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPKlryXwmXk
>
i think you were referring to this vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7pGZudN8rE (nsfw... almost)
i +1 a honey badger for haskell
I think the artwork is nice, but I am not sure that a lamb is an
appropriate mascot for Haskell.
A mascot is supposed to represent characteristics, emotions, or
desires that a particular group of people aspire to have, be like,
etc. To outsiders, it provides a quick way to see if it might be a
gro
> Yea, it's cute. I don't like the formula, though: \x -> x + x is just too
> trivial and not very Haskellish. Something higher order is the minimum
> requirement, IMO. The original (lambda knights) formula was cool: the fixed
> point operator is directly related to recursion, which is reflected in
On 21/11/2011, at 9:22 PM, Karol Samborski wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> This is my sister's proposition:
> http://origami.bieszczady.pl/images/The_Lamb_Da.png
>
> What do you think?
It looks like a skittle with a baby bonnet.
C'est mignon, mais ce n'est pas la guerre
as Pierre Bosquet almost said.
_
heathmatlock wrote:
> Cute! I like it!
Yea, it's cute. I don't like the formula, though: \x -> x + x is just too
trivial and not very Haskellish. Something higher order is the minimum
requirement, IMO. The original (lambda knights) formula was cool: the fixed
point operator is directly related
Cute! I like it!
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 7:52 AM, Karol Samborski wrote:
> 2011/11/21 Karol Samborski :
> > Hi all,
> >
> > This is my sister's proposition:
> > http://origami.bieszczady.pl/images/The_Lamb_Da.png
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
>
> Second version: http://origami.bieszczady.pl/imag
2011/11/21 Karol Samborski :
> Hi all,
>
> This is my sister's proposition:
> http://origami.bieszczady.pl/images/The_Lamb_Da.png
>
> What do you think?
>
Second version: http://origami.bieszczady.pl/images/The_Lamb_Da2.png
Best,
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Hi all,
This is my sister's proposition:
http://origami.bieszczady.pl/images/The_Lamb_Da.png
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Apart from the whole big discussion about an "official" mascot for
Haskell, I for one am SURELY adopting Da, the Lamb from now on on my
desktop background and on the lid of my laptop! :D
I think some cute animal to connect with is something nice to us, as a
community :) Could you imagine Linux wi
John Meacham writes:
> People tend to concentrate on the lambda which cooresponds to the
> functional aspect of haskell when designing logos. Not nearly enough
> attention is paid to the other striking feature, the
What about types? This is a distinguishing feature from many of the
other lambd
Last time to upload images for a long time, the break is here and I have
work to do! I got a bit tired of explaining that it's a lamb, and not
something similar to a rat, so I made the face less abstract. My little
niece liked it better than the old one for some reason. Here's some images
I threw t
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Andrew Coppin wrote:
> On 16/11/2011 04:50 AM, heathmatlock wrote:
>
> If you're going to draw a piece of graphics, why use ASCII workarounds
> like "_|_", when you can use the real thing (i.e., "⊥")?
>
> Noted, will change.
Are we going to have a contest for a
On 16/11/2011 04:50 AM, heathmatlock wrote:
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 10:18 PM, John Meacham mailto:j...@repetae.net>> wrote:
People tend to concentrate on the lambda which cooresponds to the
functional aspect of haskell when designing logos. Not nearly enough
attention is paid to th
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 10:28:47AM +0100, Alexander Bernauer wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 08:18:04PM -0800, John Meacham wrote:
> > People tend to concentrate on the lambda which cooresponds to the
> > functional aspect of haskell when designing logos. Not nearly enough
> > attention is paid to
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 08:18:04PM -0800, John Meacham wrote:
> People tend to concentrate on the lambda which cooresponds to the
> functional aspect of haskell when designing logos. Not nearly enough
> attention is paid to the other striking feature, the laziness.
If we want to emphasize the lazy
Wonder what they'd make of "bottom" :)
Maybe we can also incorporate some tongue-in-cheek tip-of-the-hat to
Shakespeare :
http://www.shakespearesantacruz.org/about/images/dream_34_thaler_web.jpg
-deech
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Tom Murphy wrote:
> I'm used to (on the east coast US) hear
You're quite the artist. I wish I could make stuff like this.
Here are some more ideas (based on titles of papers about Haskell):
What about making the lamb wear a hair shirt?
http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/people/simonpj/papers/haskell-retrospective/
Or maybe it could be lazy with class
I'm used to (on the east coast US) hearing lambda pronounced "LAM-duh."
"Duh" is an expression of something being stupid, so I don't know about
Haskell having a mascot called "Duh the Lamb"!
amindfv / Tom
On Nov 16, 2011 4:06 PM, "heathmatlock" wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 5:54 AM, Jerzy
On 16 Nov 2011, at 23:49, heathmatlock wrote:
> I took Jerzy's suggestions into consideration and made the lamb skinnier,
> maybe it looks less like a penguin now.
>
> http://imgur.com/4oeJz
A formula that is Haskell specific is
\x -> ⊥ ≠ ⊥
It is mentioned in the Haskell 98 Report, sec. 6.2,
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 4:49 PM, heathmatlock wrote:
>
> You're probably right, I guess someone can create a new poll like the
> previous one:
>
>
> http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/cgi-perl/civs/results.pl?num_winners=1&id=E_d21b0256a4fd5ed7&algorithm=beatpath
>
I would create the poll for a
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Giovanni Tirloni wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 7:06 PM, heathmatlock wrote:
>>
>>
>> Some might picture a symphony or what looks like newspaper origami when
>> they hear Da, and some might picture food when they hear Curry. I like Da
>> because its simple and "D
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 7:06 PM, heathmatlock wrote:
>
>
> Some might picture a symphony or what looks like newspaper origami when
> they hear Da, and some might picture food when they hear Curry. I like Da
> because its simple and "Da the lamb" rolls smoothly off the tongue.
> Probably best to ope
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 5:54 AM, Jerzy Karczmarczuk <
jerzy.karczmarc...@unicaen.fr> wrote:
> Do you mind some ... how to say ... offside comments?
>
> 1. The Curry Da mascot looks like a penguin disguised as a lamb. I have
> nothing against penguins !
>
Hi Jerry, thanks for your input. The reas
I like it!
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:01 AM, heathmatlock wrote:
> I liked Go's mascot, and I figure it couldn't hurt to have our own. I
> spent the past hour making this:
> http://i.imgur.com/Mib6Q.png
>
> What do you think?
>
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You're probably missing the fact that it's much harder to understand how the
Haskell program works without (_|_). I've seen lots of questions like "why
doesn't my recursion work" that could be answered simply as "because your
function is strict, so (_|_) is it's minimal fixpoint".
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Do you mind some ... how to say ... offside comments?
1. The Curry Da mascot looks like a penguin disguised as a lamb. I have
nothing against penguins !
2. Da, da, konech'no, mais, Signori und Demoiselles, do you realize that
"lamb" is an English word, and we should think about our multiling
I like the idea of a mascot. I like the idea of a lamb called Da, as most
of Haskell's strength comes from it's closeness to pure lambda calculus.
A few things I'd like to see in a mascot:
- Simple. You should be able to draw it in a few seconds.
- Look good in black and white.
- Have obvious feat
On 16 November 2011 11:05, MigMit wrote:
> Maybe it's just me, but I've thought that being non-strict just means that
> it's possible for a function to produce some value even if it's argument
> doesn't; in other words, that it's possible to have "f (_|_) ≠ (_|_)". If
> there was no such thing
On 11/16/2011 01:01 AM, heathmatlock wrote:
I liked Go's mascot, and I figure it couldn't hurt to have our own. I spent
the past hour making this:
http://i.imgur.com/Mib6Q.png
awesome. It's really nice,
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Am 16.11.2011 10:07, schrieb Andrew Butterfield:
On 16 Nov 2011, at 08:46, Ertugrul Soeylemez wrote:
But I think, despite the well-founded denotational semantics of Haskell,
bottom does not play that much of a role.
There is one? Where? Last time I looked (a while ago, admittedly)
there was no
Maybe it's just me, but I've thought that being non-strict just means that it's
possible for a function to produce some value even if it's argument doesn't; in
other words, that it's possible to have "f (_|_) ≠ (_|_)". If there was no such
thing as (_|_), what would non-strictness mean?
On 16 N
On 16 November 2011 05:18, John Meacham wrote:
> Not nearly enough
> attention is paid to the other striking feature, the laziness. The
> 'bottom' symbol _|_ should feature prominently. The two most defining
> features of haskell are that it is purely functional and _|_ inhabits
> every type. The
The fact that nobody bothered to write one down doesn't mean there isn't one.
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Nov 16, 2011, в 13:07, Andrew Butterfield
написал(а):
>
> On 16 Nov 2011, at 08:46, Ertugrul Soeylemez wrote:
>
>>
>> But I think, despite the well-founded denotational semantics of Haskell,
>>
On 16 Nov 2011, at 08:46, Ertugrul Soeylemez wrote:
>
> But I think, despite the well-founded denotational semantics of Haskell,
> bottom does not play that much of a role.
There is one? Where? Last time I looked (a while ago, admittedly)
there was no denotational (or any formal) semantics for
On 16 Nov 2011, at 05:18, John Meacham wrote:
> People tend to concentrate on the lambda which cooresponds to the
> functional aspect of haskell when designing logos. Not nearly enough
> attention is paid to the other striking feature, the laziness. The
> 'bottom' symbol _|_ should feature promine
John Meacham wrote:
> People tend to concentrate on the lambda which cooresponds to the
> functional aspect of haskell when designing logos. Not nearly enough
> attention is paid to the other striking feature, the laziness. The
> 'bottom' symbol _|_ should feature prominently. The two most defini
>
> People tend to concentrate on the lambda which cooresponds to the
> functional aspect of haskell when designing logos. Not nearly enough
> attention is paid to the other striking feature, the laziness. The
> 'bottom' symbol _|_ should feature prominently. The two most defining
> features of has
I vote for an invisible mascot, all there is to see is the orange speech bubble
with smart code ;-)
Liebe Grüße
ben
On 16 Nov 2011, at 08:45, José Pedro Magalhães wrote:
> In general, I like the idea of having a mascot, and think that something
> along these lines will be great.
>
>
> Cheer
In general, I like the idea of having a mascot, and think that something
along these lines will be great.
Cheers,
Pedro
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 01:01, heathmatlock wrote:
> I liked Go's mascot, and I figure it couldn't hurt to have our own. I
> spent the past hour making this:
> http://i.imgur
2011/11/16 heathmatlock :
> Last image for the night, http://i.imgur.com/CE9Tk.png
>
Great! I like it very much.
Best,
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On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 11:03 PM, heathmatlock wrote:
> Da the lamb, I like that.
>
>
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On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 10:18 PM, John Meacham wrote:
> People tend to concentrate on the lambda which cooresponds to the
> functional aspect of haskell when designing logos. Not nearly enough
> attention is paid to the other striking feature, the laziness. The
> 'bottom' symbol _|_ should featur
On 11-11-15 08:01 PM, heathmatlock wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/Mib6Q.png
Curry had a little lamb, little lamb, little lamb...
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People tend to concentrate on the lambda which cooresponds to the
functional aspect of haskell when designing logos. Not nearly enough
attention is paid to the other striking feature, the laziness. The
'bottom' symbol _|_ should feature prominently. The two most defining
features of haskell are tha
I thought we already had a mascot?
http://www.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell/attachments/20090401/9fb8fa05/haskell-mascot.jpg
:p
- jeremy
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 7:01 PM, heathmatlock wrote:
> I liked Go's mascot, and I figure it couldn't hurt to have our own. I spent
> the past hour making thi
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 7:39 PM, Diego Olivier Fernandez Pons <
dofp.hask...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't see how a lamb relates to Haskell :/
>
>
> The lamb is named Da.
>
>
That works too. I couldn't resist:
http://i.imgur.com/5222B.png
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_of_the_Lambda_Ca
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 7:06 PM, Ivan Lazar Miljenovic <
ivan.miljeno...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Um do we _really_ need a mascot?
I don't think a programming community every really needs a mascot, just
nice to have.
> And no offence to your
> artistic abilities, but even if we did, I don't
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 20:06, Ivan Lazar Miljenovic <
ivan.miljeno...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Um do we _really_ need a mascot? And no offence to your
> artistic abilities, but even if we did, I don't see how a lamb relates
> to Haskell :/
>
Lamb-da, obviously.
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>
> I don't see how a lamb relates to Haskell :/
The lamb is named Da.
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On 16 November 2011 12:01, heathmatlock wrote:
> I liked Go's mascot, and I figure it couldn't hurt to have our own. I spent
> the past hour making this:
> http://i.imgur.com/Mib6Q.png
>
> What do you think?
Um do we _really_ need a mascot? And no offence to your
artistic abilities, but
I liked Go's mascot, and I figure it couldn't hurt to have our own. I spent
the past hour making this:
http://i.imgur.com/Mib6Q.png
What do you think?
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