Re: Re[2]: [Haskell-cafe] "Haskell is a scripting language inspired by Python."

2010-11-09 Thread Richard O'Keefe
On 10/11/2010, at 12:50 AM, Bulat Ziganshin wrote: > i never programmed in COBOL, but afaik data structures usually was > organized this way - together with level numbers at left. it was just > easier to read it this way The clue here is "level numbers". In a declaration like 01 Thingy

Re[2]: [Haskell-cafe] "Haskell is a scripting language inspired by Python."

2010-11-09 Thread Bulat Ziganshin
Hello Gregg, Tuesday, November 9, 2010, 2:12:12 AM, you wrote: >> Doesn't COBOL have significant layout anyway as an inspiration to >> both?  > Yes and no.  What it actually has relates strongly to punched cards > and is more like assemblers of the day. i never programmed in COBOL, but afai

Re: [Haskell-cafe] "Haskell is a scripting language inspired by Python."

2010-11-08 Thread Gregg Reynolds
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 4:48 PM, Richard O'Keefe wrote: > > On 4/11/2010, at 9:08 PM, Stephen Tetley wrote: > > > > > > Did Haskell get significant whitespace from Python - doubtful as > > Python possibly wasn't visible enough at the time, but you never know. > > Python did not originate indentati

Re: [OT] Re: [Haskell-cafe] "Haskell is a scripting language inspired by Python."

2010-11-08 Thread namekuseijin
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Dan Doel wrote: > On Thursday 04 November 2010 12:12:51 pm Jeremy O'Donoghue wrote: > >> Best laugh I've had in ages. Personal favourites are: > > The Forth one got me. I also like: > > OCaml: "OCaml is an attempt to implement object-oriented syntax in Caml. It is >

Re: [Haskell-cafe] "Haskell is a scripting language inspired by Python."

2010-11-05 Thread Tillmann Rendel
Hi, Albert Y. C. Lai wrote: I also invite you to play with my: http://www.vex.net/~trebla/humour/lmcify.html http://www.vex.net/~trebla/humour/lmcify.html?t=this+is+not+an+authorative+source. Tillmann ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@has

Re: [Haskell-cafe] "Haskell is a scripting language inspired by Python."

2010-11-05 Thread David Virebayre
<< Also they "don't scale well", which I guess means that they don't make it inconvenient to design badly. >> Luke Palmer I nominate the above for quote of the week ! ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/l

Re: [Haskell-cafe] "Haskell is a scripting language inspired by Python."

2010-11-04 Thread Colin Paul Adams
> "David" == David Fox writes: David> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Albert Y. C. Lai wrote: >> On 10-11-03 10:00 PM, Jonathan Geddes wrote: >> >> It's called "The *Ultimate* Computer Language Guide," and it's on the >>> internets, so it must be correct, right? >> >> T

Re: [Haskell-cafe] "Haskell is a scripting language inspired by Python."

2010-11-04 Thread David Fox
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Albert Y. C. Lai wrote: > On 10-11-03 10:00 PM, Jonathan Geddes wrote: >> >> It's called "The *Ultimate* Computer Language Guide," and it's on the >> internets, so it must be correct, right? > > The correct conclusion: it's on the internets, so it must be LOL. The

Re: [Haskell-cafe] "Haskell is a scripting language inspired by Python."

2010-11-04 Thread Richard O'Keefe
On 4/11/2010, at 9:08 PM, Stephen Tetley wrote: > > > Did Haskell get significant whitespace from Python - doubtful as > Python possibly wasn't visible enough at the time, but you never know. Python did not originate indentation-based syntax. Occam has it too. I first came across the idea in a

Re: [Haskell-cafe] "Haskell is a scripting language inspired by Python."

2010-11-04 Thread Albert Y. C. Lai
On 10-11-03 10:00 PM, Jonathan Geddes wrote: It's called "The *Ultimate* Computer Language Guide," and it's on the internets, so it must be correct, right? The correct conclusion: it's on the internets, so it must be LOL. I also invite you to play with my: http://www.vex.net/~trebla/humour/lmc

Re: [OT] Re: [Haskell-cafe] "Haskell is a scripting language inspired by Python."

2010-11-04 Thread Dan Doel
On Thursday 04 November 2010 12:12:51 pm Jeremy O'Donoghue wrote: > Best laugh I've had in ages. Personal favourites are: The Forth one got me. I also like: OCaml: "OCaml is an attempt to implement object-oriented syntax in Caml. It is related to SML." No mention of what Caml is, by the way. H

[OT] Re: [Haskell-cafe] "Haskell is a scripting language inspired by Python."

2010-11-04 Thread Jeremy O'Donoghue
On 4 November 2010 15:30, Mark Lentczner wrote: > > On Nov 3, 2010, at 7:00 PM, Jonathan Geddes wrote: > > http://www.datarecoverylabs.com/ultimate-computer-language-guide.html > > > > It's called "The *Ultimate* Computer Language Guide," and it's on the > > internets, so it must be correct, righ

Re: [Haskell-cafe] "Haskell is a scripting language inspired by Python."

2010-11-04 Thread Mark Lentczner
On Nov 3, 2010, at 7:00 PM, Jonathan Geddes wrote: > http://www.datarecoverylabs.com/ultimate-computer-language-guide.html > > It's called "The *Ultimate* Computer Language Guide," and it's on the > internets, so it must be correct, right? Wow! Did you read the rest of that page? It is so full o

Re: [Haskell-cafe] "Haskell is a scripting language inspired by Python."

2010-11-04 Thread Malcolm Wallace
Did Haskell get significant whitespace from Python - doubtful as Python possibly wasn't visible enough at the time, but you never know. Whitespace is significant in almost every language: foo bar /= foobar. Using indentation for program structuring was introduced by Peter Landin in his ISWIM

Re: [Haskell-cafe] "Haskell is a scripting language inspired by Python."

2010-11-04 Thread Stephen Tetley
My familiarity with Python is a bit rusty, but the influence of Haskell might be over-stated. Type classes have gone from Haskell to Clean, Mercury (others?), and monads have gone to F# but otherwise the functional features of the current crop Python, Ruby etc. are not much different to what has l

Re: [Haskell-cafe] "Haskell is a scripting language inspired by Python."

2010-11-04 Thread Yves Parès
Nice. It is true that Python picked up some elements of Haskell, but now both languages are mature enough so that features can go both ways. > It's called "The *Ultimate* Computer Language Guide," and it's on the > internets, so it must be correct, right? Wooow, it's barely 9 a.m. in France, it's

[Haskell-cafe] "Haskell is a scripting language inspired by Python."

2010-11-03 Thread Jonathan Geddes
This is off topic (almost regardless of the topic), but It gave me a laugh. Hope you all enjoy it, too. I was telling a friend about the power and elegance of Haskell. When I mentioned that it has influenced many other programming languages, including his favorite language (Python) he retorted by