[Haskell-cafe] please send your cabal bug reports, wishlist, and patches!

2006-01-15 Thread Isaac Jones
Greetings, I'm trying hard to get a better hold on the Cabal[1] project, and a more clear idea of all the outstanding work that needs to be done. I've gone through my mailbox to dig up stuff like this, but no doubt some has slipped between the cracks. I started a bug tracker / wiki a few weeks ag

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Shootout rankings

2006-01-15 Thread Isaac Gouy
--- Donald Bruce Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -snip- > Ah! Just as I thought, SML really was trying very > hard ;) Quite possibly so, but no reason to follow down that slippery slope ;) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the bes

Re: [Haskell-cafe] formal methods & functional programming

2006-01-15 Thread Hal Daume III
I confess I haven't really been following this discussion, but a friend of mine has a recent paper that might be of interest (though it deals with ML rather than Haskell)... http://math.andrej.com/2005/04/09/specifications-via-realizability/ -- Hal Daume III

Re: [Haskell-cafe] formal methods & functional programming

2006-01-15 Thread Robin Green
Lennart Augustsson wrote: Robin Green wrote: 2. Dependent types: By programming in a dependently-typed functional programming language such as the research language Epigram, it is possible to write functional programs whose types force them to be correct. See for example "Why Dependent Types

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Shootout rankings

2006-01-15 Thread Sebastian Sylvan
On 1/16/06, Donald Bruce Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > sebastian.sylvan: > > On 1/15/06, Donald Bruce Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > sebastian.sylvan: > > > > On 1/15/06, Isaac Gouy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Haskell now ranked 2nd overall, only a point or so > > > > >

Re: [Haskell-cafe] formal methods & functional programming

2006-01-15 Thread Lennart Augustsson
Robin Green wrote: 2. Dependent types: By programming in a dependently-typed functional programming language such as the research language Epigram, it is possible to write functional programs whose types force them to be correct. See for example "Why Dependent Types Matter" by Thorsten Altenki

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Shootout rankings

2006-01-15 Thread Donald Bruce Stewart
jupdike: > > > Maybe we finally have enough motivation to move to > > > some other measurement of program volume :-) > > > I'm not sure how you could do this better, though... Maybe counting > > the number of "tokens" (not sure how you'd define that though) > > I was thinking the same thing for t

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Shootout rankings

2006-01-15 Thread Donald Bruce Stewart
sebastian.sylvan: > On 1/15/06, Donald Bruce Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > sebastian.sylvan: > > > On 1/15/06, Isaac Gouy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Haskell now ranked 2nd overall, only a point or so > > > > > behind C: > > > > > > > > It was always obvious that the "Write the pr

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Shootout rankings

2006-01-15 Thread Jared Updike
> > Maybe we finally have enough motivation to move to > > some other measurement of program volume :-) > I'm not sure how you could do this better, though... Maybe counting > the number of "tokens" (not sure how you'd define that though) I was thinking the same thing for the past few weeks: that

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Shootout rankings

2006-01-15 Thread Sebastian Sylvan
On 1/15/06, Donald Bruce Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > sebastian.sylvan: > > On 1/15/06, Isaac Gouy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Haskell now ranked 2nd overall, only a point or so > > > > behind C: > > > > > > It was always obvious that the "Write the program > > > as-if lines of code

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Shootout rankings

2006-01-15 Thread Donald Bruce Stewart
sebastian.sylvan: > On 1/15/06, Isaac Gouy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Haskell now ranked 2nd overall, only a point or so > > > behind C: > > > > It was always obvious that the "Write the program > > as-if lines of code were not being measured" clause > > relied too heavily on contributors wil

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Space usage problems

2006-01-15 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 03:00:45PM +, Simon Marlow wrote: > Ian Lynagh wrote: > >On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 10:36:47AM +, Simon Marlow wrote: > > > >>My suggestion: don't use the lazy state monad if you can help it. > > > >But a strict state monad would force everything to be loaded into memor

Re: [Haskell-cafe] formal methods & functional programming

2006-01-15 Thread Robin Green
Abigail wrote: Hi, I have been searching papers about tha raltionship between formal methods in software engineering and functinal programmming, but i haven't found enough information. Functional programming in pure functional languages like Haskell can help to make programs easier to reason a

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Shootout rankings

2006-01-15 Thread Chris Kuklewicz
I have added the debugged non-memory-leaking and now sped-up-with-trees version of the fasta code to the wiki: http://haskell.org/hawiki/FastaEntra This will be submitted soon. I do not think this is a good candidate for lines-of-code compression/obfuscation. In speed this entry runs 5.0 times

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Shootout rankings

2006-01-15 Thread Sebastian Sylvan
On 1/15/06, Isaac Gouy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Haskell now ranked 2nd overall, only a point or so > > behind C: > > It was always obvious that the "Write the program > as-if lines of code were not being measured" clause > relied too heavily on contributors willingness to > co-operate. > > ht

[Haskell-cafe] Db and STRef

2006-01-15 Thread Brandon Moore
John Goerzen wrote: ... I didn't honestly follow the STRef discussion, or how something so I/O-based could work there. -- John The only message I've found was Oleg mentioning the typing that keeps an STRef limited to the scope of the runST it came from. I don't think database access could liv

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Shootout rankings

2006-01-15 Thread Isaac Gouy
> Haskell now ranked 2nd overall, only a point or so > behind C: It was always obvious that the "Write the program as-if lines of code were not being measured" clause relied too heavily on contributors willingness to co-operate. http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/gp4/faq.php#implementlist Maybe w

[Haskell-cafe] Re: HDBC Transactions with Sqlite3

2006-01-15 Thread John Goerzen
On 2006-01-13, Tom Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have HDBC running with Sqlite3, but I'm getting a SqlError due to a > locked table. Please excuse my SQL ignorance, but what may be causing > the problem? In SQL, are we not allowed to select, update, and delete > from a table within a sin

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Shootout rankings

2006-01-15 Thread Jacques Carette
Ketil Malde wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donald Bruce Stewart) writes: Haskell now ranked 2nd overall, only a point or so behind C: http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/gp4/benchmark.php?test=all&lang=all Very impressive! And note that if you put zero weight on memory use, GHC wins by

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Shootout rankings

2006-01-15 Thread Ketil Malde
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donald Bruce Stewart) writes: > :D > > Haskell now ranked 2nd overall, only a point or so behind C: > > http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/gp4/benchmark.php?test=all&lang=all Very impressive! And note that if you put zero weight on memory use, GHC wins by a large margin. (