On Mon, Feb 04, 2019 at 05:56:56AM -0500, bill-auger wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 02:46:30 -0500 Ineiev wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 03, 2019 at 11:52:04PM -0500, bill-auger wrote:
> > > the main, central FSDG concern: which programs are
> > > freely distributable and which are not
> >
> > I don't thin
* Aaron Wolf [2019-10-08 18:46]:
> I don't see enough evidence to support even considering this
> interpretation of John Sullivan. The post included offensive language as
> well. It makes perfect sense for it to have been blocked. Accusations
> like this require far more evidence than this sort of
From:
Mr. Jean Louis
Nagpur, India
Day 3 of week 41 of 2019
Hello there,
I have seen your signature here:
https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project/
My opinion on your signing of that defamatory, harassing, biased and
fact-less statement is here:
https://gnu.support
From:
Mr. Jean Louis
Nagpur, India
Day 3 of week 41 of 2019
Hello there,
I have seen your signature here:
https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project/
My opinion on your signing of that defamatory, harassing, biased and
fact-less statement is here:
https://gnu.support
From:
Mr. Jean Louis
Nagpur, India
Day 3 of week 41 of 2019
Hello there,
I have seen your signature here:
https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project/
My opinion on your signing of that defamatory, harassing, biased and
fact-less statement is here:
https://gnu.support
From:
Mr. Jean Louis
Nagpur, India
Day 3 of week 41 of 2019
Hello there,
I have seen your signature here:
https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project/
My opinion on your signing of that defamatory, harassing, biased and
fact-less statement is here:
https://gnu.support
From:
Mr. Jean Louis
Nagpur, India
Day 3 of week 41 of 2019
Hello there,
I have seen your signature here:
https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project/
My opinion on your signing of that defamatory, harassing, biased and
fact-less statement is here:
https://gnu.support
From:
Mr. Jean Louis
Nagpur, India
Day 3 of week 41 of 2019
Hello there,
I have seen your signature here:
https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project/
My opinion on your signing of that defamatory, harassing, biased and
fact-less statement is here:
https://gnu.support
From:
Mr. Jean Louis
Nagpur, India
Day 3 of week 41 of 2019
Hello there,
I have seen your signature here:
https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project/
My opinion on your signing of that defamatory, harassing, biased and
fact-less statement is here:
https://gnu.support
* Ricardo Wurmus [2019-10-09 21:27]:
> Hi Jean Louis,
>
> please stop sending the same message to the Guix bug tracker and
> development mailing list. They are neither bug reports nor do they
> pertain to the development of Guix.
>
> For discussions about GNU please us
* Alexander Vdolainen [2019-10-09 23:13]:
> I'm nobody (yep, I'm using GNU Guile, GNU Emacs and GUIX and a lot
> of other GNU projects (make, gcc, binutils etc ...), but I'm not a
> great contributor yet). However those events are going to look like
> a decision point to move on from GNU communit
* Wilson Bustos [2019-10-09 23:42]:
> Jean Luis,
> Seems they don't want to reply, probably because they don't have
> argument. Also, the project signs without as anyone to do it, they
> just did it. There is not a vote to say 'The project is agree with
> this issue'.
>
> At least everyone now
* Wilson Bustos [2019-10-09 23:54]:
> I think even more important,
> When I read that statement I thought every Guix collaborator is in
> favor of that statement, or at least a major number of them.
And that is exactly what is not being spread on Internet.
I would like to ask those "GNU maintai
* František Kučera [2019-10-07 17:14]:
> > Hello Guix!
> >
> > We, a group of GNU maintainers sharing a vision for a stronger GNU
> > Project, are publishing this statement today:
> >
> >https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project/
> >
> > We are somewhat abusing the G
* Ludovic Courtès [2019-10-07 17:41]:
> Hi František, and welcome,
>
> (I’m willing to answer questions like I wrote, but if we are to have a
> more in-depth conversation, I think we should not abuse guix-devel for
> that.)
Now is too late, you are the one who abused Guix, and you should step
do
* Wilson Bustos [2019-10-07 22:00]:
> Just for curiosity, about this:
> "Yet, we must also acknowledge that Stallman’s behavior over the years has
> undermined a core value of the GNU project"
>
> Which 'behavior' are you exactly talking about?
> What is the reason of that statement?
> What you w
* pelzflorian (Florian Pelz) [2019-10-08 04:19]:
> On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 10:59:41PM -0300, Wilson Bustos wrote:
> > Which 'behavior' are you exactly talking about?
>
> Perhaps
> https://medium.com/@selamjie/remove-richard-stallman-appendix-a-a7e41e784f88
>
> Thank you, GNU maintainers, for you
* Jan [2019-10-08 06:33]:
> On Tue, 8 Oct 2019 10:19:28 +0200
> "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 10:59:41PM -0300, Wilson Bustos wrote:
> > > Which 'behavior' are you exactly talking about?
> >
> > Perhaps
> > https://medium.com/@selamjie/remove-richard-stallm
* Wilson Bustos [2019-10-08 10:37]:
> The free software communities has to work with every person with
> every idea always in the community we work with respect with each
> other. I think IMHO, that everyone do to Stallman was malicious and
> is an attack to the free thinking and speech.
That is
* Ludovic Courtès [2019-10-08 04:34]:
> Hi Jesse,
>
> Jesse Gibbons skribis:
>
> > Is there an alternative list where we can have an in-depth discussion?
>
> Unfortunately GNU maintainers have having this discussion on private
> mailing lists.
Please do not speak of "GNU maintainers" mention
* Pierre Neidhardt [2019-10-08 04:48]:
> Ludovic Courtès writes:
>
> > Unfortunately GNU maintainers have having this discussion on private
> > mailing lists.
>
> Why?
Because it is conspiracy that shall not be placed and given to public
discussion. The fact that RMS knows about their discussi
* Ricardo Wurmus [2019-10-08 07:17]:
>
> Pierre Neidhardt writes:
>
> > Ludovic Courtès writes:
> >
> >> Unfortunately GNU maintainers have having this discussion on private
> >> mailing lists.
> >
> > Why?
>
> Private GNU mailing lists have existed for years. They are currently
> being used
* Dimakakos Dimos [2019-10-08 12:38]:
> On the subject, I think that the discussion of rms's position in GNU is
> valid but that at the same time such an announcment should be made after
> a careful consideration and research.
There was no public discussion. I am not against their opinion, and
an
* P [2019-10-08 13:30]:
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On Tuesday, October 8, 2019 4:38 PM, Dimakakos Dimos
> wrote:
>
> > Do we have evidence that rms has caused harm to GNU's projects?
>
> in short: yes.
>
> lots of people have talked about this, but here is one thread I've seen
> re
* zimoun [2019-10-08 16:19]:
> Hi,
>
> First, just to give numbers about what means 18 GNU maintainers. Here
> [1] is the list of the GNU packages. I let you count but I guess the
> list is more than 300 packages. Therefore, one can guess that the GNU
> maintainers are more than 300.
> Well, even
* Andy Wingo [2019-10-09 11:49]:
> For what it is worth, I have some personal answers to some of these
> questions here:
>
> https://wingolog.org/archives/2019/10/08/thoughts-on-rms-and-gnu
I am appreciating that you are publishing your opinions beyond the
GUIX.GNU.ORG and GNU.ORG domains. Tha
* Svante Signell [2019-10-09 13:18]:
> Dear Guix, and other people signing that statement.
> cc: RMS
>
> I do also have problems with your campaign against RMS. Publishing such
> a statement as a blog entry for Guix is very inappropriate. Especially
> in the context of the recent defaming campaig
* Wilson Bustos [2019-10-09 17:53]:
> I think even more important,
> When I read that statement I thought every Guix collaborator is in favor of
> that statement,
> or at least a major number of them.
>
> But I get surprise to not find any mail to ask to anyone about this,
> There is not a vote.
* František Kučera [2019-10-09 16:39]:
> Dne 09. 10. 19 v 19:06 P napsal(a):
> > Stop spamming the list. Thanks.
> >
> If you did not want to start this discussion, you should not have posted
> that statement on the official Guix blog. You could expect what it would do.
>
> Franta
Exactly, that
* Wilson Bustos [2019-10-09 17:41]:
> Jean Luis,
> Seems they don't want to reply, probably because they don't have argument.
> Also, the project signs without as anyone to do it, they just did it.
> There is not a vote to say 'The project is agree with this issue'.
>
> At least everyone now they
* František Kučera [2019-10-09 18:11]:
> Dne 09. 10. 19 v 23:41 Wilson Bustos napsal(a):
> > Seems they don't want to reply, probably because they don't have argument.
> > Also, the project signs without as anyone to do it, they just did it.
> > There is not a vote to say 'The project is agree wit
* Ricardo Wurmus [2019-10-10 07:09]:
> I have previously asked you privately to stop spamming our mailing
> lists. I am asking you a second time publicly. If you keep disrupting
> our mailing lists your posts will be moderated.
I cannot expect anything else from you.
Jean
; by stating things in a blog nobody could ever respond to.
Thank you for support to GNU and RMS now when he needs it so
much. Hundreds and hundreds of people are already expressing their
support on various social media channels, even YouTube (beware
proprietary Javascript), various forums and GNU/L
* Hartmut Goebel [2019-10-10 10:26]:
> Am 10.10.19 um 06:30 schrieb Jean Louis:
> > They want take over, obviously, so they said.
> […]
> > They are indirectly asking for money. GNU project is about money,
>
> Both of these are allegation missing any backing.
Oh,
* Hartmut Goebel [2019-10-10 10:43]:
> Am 10.10.19 um 05:57 schrieb Jean Louis:
> > Ludo, please step down from GNU project […]
> >
> > Obviously, there are people who don't trust you.
>
> No reasons for any of the signers to step back. There are always so
in public. Just have balls, as RMS has got the balls, endure it and
be happy.
Wish you good night,
Jean Louis
On October 10, 2019 2:29:08 PM UTC, "Ludovic Courtès" wrote:
>Hi Jean-Louis,
>
>Jean Louis skribis:
>
>> * Ricardo Wurmus [2019-10-10 07:09]:
>>>
It is not harmful if Guix remains free software, how it can be?
It is only harmful for Guix.
It was not my decision, it is theirs.
On October 10, 2019 11:39:42 AM UTC, Dmitry Alexandrov <321...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Jean Louis wrote:
>> * Alexander Vdolainen [2019-10-09 23:13]
d I hope they have enough respect for GNU
>and RMS heritage not to follow you strong advice.
They have no respect for RMS.
Jean Louis
have told my concerns to them privately and on chat before sending it to
mailing list. Would they provide facts, I would refrain.
Obviously the thought police is afraid and must silence defenders of RMS and
his works.
So why is it problem to address the same on the Guix making list?
Is it mayb
-own-domain-GNU-org.html
On October 10, 2019 8:23:11 PM UTC, Svante Signell
wrote:
>On Thu, 2019-10-10 at 19:22 +0000, Jean Louis wrote:
>>
>>
>> > Your problem is that you published this statement to guix-devel. If
>> > you don't mind, I'll forward you
On October 10, 2019 8:29:06 PM UTC, Dmitry Alexandrov <321...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Jean Louis wrote:
>> How are you?
>
>Ehm... Fine. What is the occasion to ask?
We are then from different cultures simply. At my side it is always used
similarly as hand shaking.
>
* Mancini [2019-10-11 17:31]:
> ---> "RMS" : ?? if you are going to use acronyms unknown to
> many in the audience, footnote them ! + "FUD"
You are right, yes, all text shall be clear.
For FUD:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty,_and_doubt
Fear, uncertainty, and doubt (
* Svante Signell [2019-10-10 22:23]:
> On Thu, 2019-10-10 at 19:22 +0000, Jean Louis wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Your problem is that you published this statement to guix-devel. If
> > > you don't mind, I'll forward your mail to gnu-system-discuss,
* Kete via Discussions about the development of the GNU system
[2019-10-12 03:28]:
> On 10/11/2019 04:43 PM, Alexander Vdolainen wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On 10/11/19 11:16 PM, Kete via Discussions about the development of the
> > GNU system wrote:
> >> On 1
* Dmitry Alexandrov <321...@gmail.com> [2019-10-12 11:36]:
> David wrote:
> > On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 21:11:51 +0300 Dmitry
> > Alexandrov <321...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> You replied privately, offlist. Was it intentional? If yes, why: I see
> >> nothing secret there?
> >
> > Absolutely yes, and
Dear Ludovic,
Hello, how are you? I was on long travel, could not answer you earlier.
* Ludovic Courtès [2019-10-10 16:29]:
> Hi Jean-Louis,
>
> Jean Louis skribis:
>
> > * Ricardo Wurmus [2019-10-10 07:09]:
> >> I have previously asked you privately to stop spam
welcoming feminists, and contra-feminists, but for as
long as the GNU project is not abused to spread out their propaganda.
And nobody is preventing them to publish their opinions outside of GNU
project. If they have balls for that.
Jean Louis
project
pages, those pro-feminist group of GNU maintainers have tried to make
GNU project political.
Jean Louis
Footnotes:
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thoughtcrime
eally proponent, he is programmer, but that is
not same. He is rather opportunist pushing himself and his own goals
forward. One cannot expect more but what he does now.
Jean Louis
Dear P,
See my comments below.
* P [2019-10-10 22:33]:
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On Thursday, October 10, 2019 7:22 PM, Jean Louis wrote:
>
> > > Your problem is that you published this statement to guix-devel. If you
> > > don't mind, I'll fo
could request another member to refrain from expressing
> religious views critical of homosexuality within the project's
> communication channels, as it offends her or him. On the flip side,
> a religious person could request another member to refrain from
> expressing political view
* pelzflorian [2019-10-12 15:38]:
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 03:06:31PM +0200, Jean Louis wrote:
> > Ludovic Courtès and Andy Wingo and other people who are introducing
> > their pro-feminist political views into the apolitical GNU project
> > are mixing the independent G
her than any deep-seated
conviction,[4] and engaging in disingenuous arguments.[5]
OK fine, now I get it, that is exactly what GNU project is not for!
GNU project is for everybody, it is not a platform to be abused by
feminists or any kind of political activists!
> p.s2: A social network text message proof of nothing.
Exactly!
Jean Louis
P.S. Please don't make abort() jokes or you are not welcome in Guix.
* Christophe Poncy [2019-10-11 23:10]:
> On 2019-10-11 20:41, Taylan Kammer wrote:
> > […] What position does he
> > hold within today's GNU project other than being a wise old person
> > (wise with respect to his topics of expertise) who is respected a lot?
> >
>
> As a simple user, I see him
* Wilson Bustos [2019-10-12 17:45]:
> Why should GuixSD feminist?
> Free software movement is no about popularity, is about freedom.
Because Ludovic Courtès said to me so, when I asked him, that reason
for defamation of RMS is their abort() joke and Emacs Virgin jokes,
including the "MIT episodes
* Eric Myhre [2019-10-12 18:10]:
> Can you just... Stop?
I am hurring to stop as soon as Guix people take politics out of GNU
project from guix.gnu.org domain.
Jean
* František Kučera [2019-10-12 19:13]:
> Dne 12. 10. 19 v 15:38 pelzflorian (Florian Pelz) napsal(a):
> > On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 03:06:31PM +0200, Jean Louis wrote:
> >> Ludovic Courtès and Andy Wingo and other people who are introducing
> >> their pro-femini
* Alfred M. Szmidt [2019-10-12 19:13]:
>Hasn't RMS already officially stepped down?
>
> He resigned from the FSF board, he is still Chief GNUisance.
That means nothing in terms of legality and policy making. Stepping
down as President of FSF means really only that FSF has different way
of
* P [2019-10-12 19:38]:
> If women should be welcome in tech is a step too far for you, then
> you are too whiny to be useful in tech.
Every women is welcome in free software and any activity in life if
you ask me.
I never stated different and never will.
In fact I do not observe the sex of per
* Wilson Bustos [2019-10-12 19:47]:
> P,
> The problem is when that politics gets extreme.
> For example at the point to change the rules of a human language just for
> politics reason.
>
> The guixSD Spanish manual for example says : 'la usuaria' to refer to every
> user
I understand that certa
* P [2019-10-12 20:00]:
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On Saturday, October 12, 2019 5:46 PM, Wilson Bustos
> wrote:
>
> > Don't you think that is extreme?
>
> I do not. What's extreme is that you feel like such a tiny thing is extreme.
> Quit your whining or find a new hobby.
I do not
* P [2019-10-12 20:03]:
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On Saturday, October 12, 2019 5:53 PM, Jean Louis wrote:
>
> > When you have reviewed the facts and not just blindly respond back
> > with your emotional reaction, let me know, as I like exchanging on
> > t
* Wilson Bustos [2019-10-12 20:25]:
> Change a language's rules to fit your politics because you feel the normal
> language is offensive,is actually extreme.
>
> All the best
Alright, that is your opinion.
Related to GNU project and welcoming of everybody, and always
appreciating and respecting
* P [2019-10-12 20:38]:
You have been quoting from Andy Wingo blog:
> The great tragedy of RMS's tenure in the supposedly universalist FSF
> and GNU projects is that he behaves in a way that is particularly
> alienating to women.
GNU project is apolitical. RMS never established any discriminato
Hello Alex,
Thank you much. That looks like a solution that is valuable, and I would
like to see that in future documentation.
The info documentation and guix package --help now provide the option to
read the file and evaluate from file, and I guess that this solution you
provided is better for f
t use
Guix, and I am sending thousands of emails per day, by using
the above stuff. So per package €10 is alright for me. I
guess there is nothing wrong to pay for the works.
Jean Louis
On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 05:29:08PM +0100, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> Ricardo Wurmus skribis:
>
te-keyword-arguments (package-arguments mutt)
((#:configure-flags cf)
`(cons "--enable-hcache" ,cf
(synopsis (string-append (package-synopsis mutt)
" (configured with --enable-hcache)"
On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 12:21:09PM +0
Hello Danny,
This is great, and I hope it will be included in GuixSD.
Combination of ROX filer and file manager, can make very nice system,
without too big graphical environments.
On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 09:04:43AM +0100, Danny Milosavljevic wrote:
> Hello Louis,
>
> well, writing the package d
Let me give some tips when making this:
The system must be able to encrypt:
- if possible whole / though I personally don't prefer it like that
- to encrypt /home on a device
- to encrypt /tmp (very important)
- to encrypt swap
On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 03:30:10PM +0100, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> J
Hello that is great Jochem.
On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 02:29:42PM +0100, Jochem Raat wrote:
> Hey Guix,
>
> Here is a patch to add Text::NeatTemplate.
>
> - Jochem
> From b7e37093af7cf30bb7a39b7ab57b57c0c293b7bb Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: Jochem Raat
> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 14:12:08 +0100
hat helps non-free software to run on free GNU
distribution, is not in alignment with "teach them to understand what it
means and to demand it".
I am demanding it now.
Jean Louis
nd run for their
exceptional uses in the non-free world, without inclusion of Wine in
the free software distribution.
All written above are my opinion, and not legal advices.
Jean Louis
zation and justifications based on the
single fact how WINE/MAME or other similar emulators are free software
by themselves, and that is the only reason to include them, but let us
avoid all the reality about that, that those platforms are being
developed for the major purpose of running non-free software. It does
not play alone. It is hypocrisy.
Jean Louis
especially not with well known trademarks, and claimed to be GPL
licensed
- software using trademarks within the source is also questionable.
My statements shall be verified by attorney, as I am only paralegal.
Jean Louis
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 10:58:26AM +0200, Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer wro
. I am not using free
software to have 2 faces or to recommend to others non-free software.
For that reason that MAME gives incentive to majority of users to use
non-free software, it shall not be included in distribution.
Jean Louis
ation of trademarks.
For sake of responsibility of what is distributed and understanding how
it can affect multiple people worldwide, it is better doing what I am
suggesting. Seek advice.
Jean Louis
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 03:14:32PM +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> > For your understanding:
&g
Hello Nils,
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 02:41:54PM +0200, Nils Gillmann wrote:
> If we drop it, there will be very likely inofficial repositories
> carrying it, like there are now for custom packaged non-free
> software. And those people will end up coming to our chat and
> lists, and we have to deal
e to running only proprietary
software:
https://libreplanet.org/wiki/List_of_software_that_does_not_respect_the_Free_System_Distribution_Guidelines#Monkey.27s_Audio_Codec
and
https://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/index.php?28332
Jean Louis
Hello,
here are 2 packages: loudmouth as prerequisite for freetalk, the command
line jabber client.
My knowledge is not sufficient to make it work yet. If somebody can help
on correcting this and including freetalk with SSL/TLS in the GuixSD
Thanks
Jean Louis
;;; GNU Guix --- Functional package
Hello,
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 06:15:43PM +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> There’s compliance officer going to tell us whether a proposed extension
> to the FSDG is good or not. The FSDG are community rules, not a law.
When I referred to legality, that was in regards to trademark issues, as
Ninte
products or services which
are identical or similar to the products or services which the
registration covers. That applies.
These both cases applies to packages of Nintendo, and to the intended
package of MAME.
That is for your consideration. I am sharing my knowledge and experience
with you.
Jean Louis
Hello Nils,
I was expecting you could test these 2 files and simply fix them. I will
of course study, but I cannot get it to work at this moment.
Regarding single line on the end, that is because I used:
guix build -f file.scm
to test it, as it has to evaluate to something. Regarding copyright,
Sure, but existing files don't work, I asked for assistance on that. It
is not useful to add non-working package definitions, right?
On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 12:17:38PM +0200, Ricardo Wurmus wrote:
>
> Hi Jean Louis,
>
> > Regarding single line on the end, that is because
I was under impression that I did tell. I am yet learning Guile, and did
not go through all the functions from info guix. At this moment, I
cannot contribute in the manner like you or other people. But I can send
95% of the finished package definition.
freetalk, requires loudmouth.
Loudmouth work
I have observed that package imagemagick, has license specified in the
definition as: FSF-free, even though I see on the website that they use
Apache 2.0 license.
It is better that correct license is specified in the package
definition.
Jean Louis
ut "/sources/..." in load-path but rather
as in the 0.3 version "/usr/share/guile/site/2.0".
Jean Louis
Hello David,
Thank you much, that is a way to start implementing it on other
systems.
Jean Louis
On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 06:11:19PM -0400, David Michael wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 7:52 AM, Jean Louis wrote:
> > I am searching for a sample shepherd /etc/shepherd.scm to be run on
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