Re: Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive

2024-03-17 Thread MSavoritias
On 3/16/24 21:45, Tomas Volf wrote: On 2024-03-16 20:24:50 +0200, MSavoritias wrote: I was also distressed to see how poorly they treated a developer who wished to update their name: https://cohost.org/arborelia/post/4968198-the-software-heritag https://cohost.org/arborelia/post/5052044-the-so

qa.guix.gnu.org: Returns a plain Guile error for a merged issue

2024-03-17 Thread Artyom V. Poptsov
Hello, I just found out that Guix QA returns a plain Guile error message when I try to open an issue that was merged: https://qa.guix.gnu.org/issue/69654 The error looks like this: --8<---cut here---start->8--- An error occurred Sorry about that! wrong-type-

Re: Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive

2024-03-17 Thread Lars-Dominik Braun
Hey, > I have heard folks in the Guix maintenance sphere claim that we never rewrite > git history in Guix, as a matter of policy. I believe we should revisit that > policy (is it actually written anywhere?) with an eye towards possible > exceptions, and develop a mechanism for securely maintai

Re: Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive

2024-03-17 Thread MSavoritias
On 3/17/24 11:39, Lars-Dominik Braun wrote: Hey, I have heard folks in the Guix maintenance sphere claim that we never rewrite git history in Guix, as a matter of policy. I believe we should revisit that policy (is it actually written anywhere?) with an eye towards possible exceptions, and

Re: Error handling when 'guix substitute' dies

2024-03-17 Thread Ekaitz Zarraga
Hi Ada, On 2024-03-17 07:18, Ada Stevenson wrote: Hi Guix, I have this gripe with usability regarding using substitutes. Sometimes, usually when I'm on an enterprise network like my university's of library's wifi, the `guix substitute` process dies with a "TLS error in procedure 'write_to_se

Re: Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive

2024-03-17 Thread paul
Hi all , thank you MSavoritias for bringing up points that many of us share. It's clearly a tradeoff what to do about the past. For the future, as Christpher already stated, we need a serious solution that we can uphold as a free software project that does not alienate users or contributors.

Re: Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive

2024-03-17 Thread MSavoritias
On 3/17/24 13:53, paul wrote: Hi all , thank you MSavoritias for bringing up points that many of us share. It's clearly a tradeoff what to do about the past. For the future, as Christpher already stated, we need a serious solution that we can uphold as a free software project that does not

Re: qa.guix.gnu.org: Returns a plain Guile error for a merged issue

2024-03-17 Thread Christopher Baines
"Artyom V. Poptsov" writes: > Hello, > > I just found out that Guix QA returns a plain Guile error message when I > try to open an issue that was merged: > https://qa.guix.gnu.org/issue/69654 > > The error looks like this: > > An error occurred > > Sorry about that! > wrong-type-arg > > #fWron

Re: Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive

2024-03-17 Thread Tomas Volf
On 2024-03-17 12:53:54 +0100, paul wrote: > only a 35 yrs old white cis boy Could you stop labeling people like this? It makes me feel uncomfortable and not welcomed... T. -- There are only two hard things in Computer Science: cache invalidation, naming things and off-by-one errors. signature

Re: Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive

2024-03-17 Thread Olivier Dion
On Sat, 16 Mar 2024, Ian Eure wrote: [...] > GPL’d software I’ve created has been packaged for Guix, which I assume > means it’s been included in SWH. While I’m dealing with their (IMO: > unethical) opt-out process, I likely also need to stop new copies from > being uploaded again in the future

Re: Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive

2024-03-17 Thread Ian Eure
MSavoritias writes: On 3/17/24 11:39, Lars-Dominik Braun wrote: Hey, I have heard folks in the Guix maintenance sphere claim that we never rewrite git history in Guix, as a matter of policy. I believe we should revisit that policy (is it actually written anywhere?) with an eye towards po

Re: Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive

2024-03-17 Thread Ian Eure
MSavoritias writes: On 3/17/24 13:53, paul wrote: Hi all , thank you MSavoritias for bringing up points that many of us share. It's clearly a tradeoff what to do about the past. For the future, as Christpher already stated, we need a serious solution that we can uphold as a free software

Re: Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive

2024-03-17 Thread MSavoritias
On 3/17/24 18:20, Ian Eure wrote: MSavoritias writes: On 3/17/24 11:39, Lars-Dominik Braun wrote: Hey, I have heard folks in the Guix maintenance sphere claim that we never rewrite git history in Guix, as a matter of policy. I believe we should revisit that policy (is it actually written

Re: Building container images with nix2container

2024-03-17 Thread Antoine Eiche
Simon Tournier writes: >> Does your built images contains several layers? > > This had recently been introduced. > > 0cf75c9b2f23869201144917cea7f6ad49683d3d > AuthorDate: Tue Dec 26 03:54:12 2023 +0300 > CommitDate: Mon Jan 8 21:04:44 2024 +0300 Thanks. >> nix2container

Re: Guix days guix home discussion

2024-03-17 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hi! Gábor Boskovits skribis: > 1. It is rare that guix home import does the right thing (it is usually > removing some startup file customizations, does not seem to arrange to pick > up profiles, not even its own). Either we should improve it, or document > that it only gives a skeleton configur

Re: binfmt_misc

2024-03-17 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hi, Z572 <873216...@qq.com> skribis: > see > https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=21ca59b365c0 > > linux 6.7 support use binfmt_misc to add new binary formats within > unprivileged namespaces, > I think this improves guix reproducibility and also avoids le

Re: Building container images with nix2container

2024-03-17 Thread Antoine Eiche
Simon Tournier writes: >> Well, I have not followed on which strategy Guix relies. What is the >> one of nix2container? The one described here: >> >> https://grahamc.com/blog/nix-and-layered-docker-images/ > > To answer to my question, the way to build the container image is > different, he

Re: doc: installation: fix ~root confusion (was Re: doc: Removing much of Binary Installation)

2024-03-17 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hi, "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" skribis: > Otherwise LGTM. Could you send another diff? Would a commit message > like this be okay: > > doc: Simplify installation instructions. > > * doc/guix.texi (Installation): Direct readers towards the installation > script. Remove superfluous commentary

Re: cmake-build-system: build tests only if #:tests? is true?

2024-03-17 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hi, Hartmut Goebel skribis: >> I will submit a patchset shortly for review and if accepted we can >> look to combine all the cmake patches for the large rebuild. > > Yes, of course we should combine them. May I ask you to take care of > it and include mine, which I just posted: > > https://issue

Re: Guix days guix home discussion

2024-03-17 Thread Ryan Prior
On Sunday, March 17th, 2024 at 12:24 PM, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > I personally try to lower the barrier for Home services, but I think few > people (if any) beyond me review Home services. > > We should expand the ‘home’ team; who’s in? I would like to contribute to Guix home, but haven't been

Re: Guix days guix home discussion

2024-03-17 Thread Ryan Prior
On Sunday, March 17th, 2024 at 12:24 PM, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > ‘guix home import’ does exactly that: generate a first configuration > that you may find necessary to tweak. Perhaps the manual should clarify > that? Maybe we should call it "guix home init" then? Describing it as "import" impli

Re: Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive

2024-03-17 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hi, Ian Eure skribis: > They appear to be using the archive to build LLMs: > https://www.softwareheritage.org/2024/02/28/responsible-ai-with-starcoder2/ To me, if the end result is that copyleft licenses are ignored, as is the case with Microsoft’s CoPilot, then we have a problem. That’s no ex

Re: Proposal to turn off AOT in clojure-build-system

2024-03-17 Thread Jean-Pierre De Jesus Diaz
Hello, >Correctly handling the ABI concerns — which Guix currently does >not do — would result in a combinatorial explosion of Clojure >packages should multiple versions of Clojure ever be available in >Guix at the same time. I think this is partly true and also a problem of other languages in Gu

Re: Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive

2024-03-17 Thread Richard Sent
Regarding Guix development, if the decision is made to not change existing policy or implement another authorship mechanism, I think some text could be added to the manual explaining such. Contributing to Guix is an intentional thing, unlike SWH. Updating the manual means contributors will, at lea

Re: Guix days guix home discussion

2024-03-17 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hello! Ryan Prior skribis: > 1. I haven't been able to use Guix Home to migrate my home config across > machines. I've done this 3 times since I started using Guix on what I would > consider advanced-level (writing Guile, defining my own packages & manifests, > contributing patches.) Each tim

Re: Guix days guix home discussion

2024-03-17 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Ryan Prior skribis: > On Sunday, March 17th, 2024 at 12:24 PM, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > >> ‘guix home import’ does exactly that: generate a first configuration >> that you may find necessary to tweak. Perhaps the manual should clarify >> that? > > Maybe we should call it "guix home init" then? D

Re: Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive

2024-03-17 Thread Attila Lendvai
> only a 35 yrs old white cis boy you're judging a group of individuals, namely those who were handed the cis white male mix at the genetic lottery, as a uniform blob. and maybe even somewhat deplorable, if i'm reading your right. does it make sense to judge an individual based on some coincide

rewriting history; Was: Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive

2024-03-17 Thread Attila Lendvai
> I was also distressed to see how poorly they treated a developer > who wished to update their name: > https://cohost.org/arborelia/post/4968198-the-software-heritag > https://cohost.org/arborelia/post/5052044-the-software-heritag let's put aside the trans aspect of this question for a moment, b