Why bash-minimal is part of sbcl package

2023-12-10 Thread Pan Xie
Hello I find this interesting thing but I don't have an explanation. When query the "references" of my Gnu Store item "sbcl", it shows that sbcl references bash-mininal, as the following output shows: # guix gc --references /gnu/store/sbbp9nvslqcf3bmcnz5wgxf2qpsi757 /gnu/store/6ncav55lbk5kqvw

Re: Why bash-minimal is part of sbcl package

2023-12-10 Thread Guillaume Le Vaillant
Pan Xie skribis: > Hello > > I find this interesting thing but I don't have an explanation. When query the > "references" of my Gnu Store item "sbcl", it shows that sbcl references > bash-mininal, as the following output shows: > > # guix gc --references /gnu/store/sbbp9nvslqcf3bmcnz5wgxf2qpsi757

Re: Shutting down qa.guix?

2023-12-10 Thread Christopher Baines
Tobias Geerinckx-Rice writes: > Christopher Baines 写道: >> it's not the most cost effective setup > > Has this been explained in more detail before? Probably not, beid is currently a CPX51 Hetzner cloud server costing €65.33 a month. This has been useful as it's enabled scaling the resources dyn

Re: Patch Review Flow

2023-12-10 Thread Tobias Alexandra Platen
This is also interesting for me, since I have created my first patch for guix: adding libsurvive as a package. Alex

Re: Heisenbug

2023-12-10 Thread Attila Lendvai
> What's a good way to debug this, please? in Geiser i usually get the proper error message: M-x geiser ,m (gnu tests reconfigure) ,reload > Where is my error? good question! silently swallowing errors and warnings should be something that is frown upon, and only ever employed when deemed r

Re: Better support remote deployment

2023-12-10 Thread Ricardo Wurmus
Ludovic Courtès writes: > That said, I wonder if this would really be more convenient than SSH’ing > into the target machine and running the commands right there. Perhaps > I’m missing something about the use case? The use case is to have a development host where packages are built and then p

Re: December London Guix meetup

2023-12-10 Thread Arun Isaac
Hi all, Just a gentle reminder for tomorrow's hybrid Guix meetup! See you all tomorrow! :-) Regards, Arun > The next Guix London meetup is scheduled for Monday 11th December, 6 pm > London time (UTC) onward. 😃🤖🌈💻 Join us in person or online, address > and link below. > > - In person, from 6:00

Re: RFI: Guix XMPP service.

2023-12-10 Thread Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
Hi MSavoritias, On Sun, Dec 10 2023, MSavoritias wrote: > Do you think it would be ok to use a VPS? Or do we want a physical > server at somebody's home? It's a community question. Everyone knows about IRC, and it works well. I'm not sure there is a "we want" for XMPP, even though the protocol

Re: Heisenbug

2023-12-10 Thread Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
Hi Attila, On Sun, Dec 10 2023, Attila Lendvai wrote: > M-x geiser > ,m (gnu tests reconfigure) Thanks for those hints! That yields ;;; compiling /lcl/lechner/guix/git/guix/scripts/system/reconfigure.scm ;;; compiled /home/lechner/.cache/guile/ccache/3.0-LE-8-4.7/lcl/lechner/guix/git/guix/scri

Re: Should commits rather be buildable or small

2023-12-10 Thread Saku Laesvuori
> Hi Saku, > > Am Freitag, dem 08.12.2023 um 10:42 +0200 schrieb Saku Laesvuori: > > Hi, > > > > I'm planning on refreshing Guix's haskell packages as my fix for > > https://issues.guix.gnu.org/66347 requires rebuilding all of them > > anyway. Should I try to keep commits small with only one upda

Re: RFI: Guix XMPP service.

2023-12-10 Thread MSavoritias
On 12/10/23 16:43, Felix Lechner wrote: Hi MSavoritias, On Sun, Dec 10 2023, MSavoritias wrote: Do you think it would be ok to use a VPS? Or do we want a physical server at somebody's home? It's a community question. Everyone knows about IRC, and it works well. I'm not sure there is a "we w

Re: Should commits rather be buildable or small

2023-12-10 Thread Liliana Marie Prikler
Am Sonntag, dem 10.12.2023 um 17:28 +0200 schrieb Saku Laesvuori: > > Hi Saku, > > > > Am Freitag, dem 08.12.2023 um 10:42 +0200 schrieb Saku Laesvuori: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I'm planning on refreshing Guix's haskell packages as my fix for > > > https://issues.guix.gnu.org/66347 requires rebuildi

Re: RFI: Guix XMPP service.

2023-12-10 Thread Vivien Kraus
Le dimanche 10 décembre 2023 à 17:45 +0200, MSavoritias a écrit : > > There is also a trust issue. For acceptance, we need bridging. For > > bridging, we need policing. And for policing, we need people with > > time. > > That's a good question yeah. Whether we want bridging that is. > Personally

Re: RFI: Guix XMPP service.

2023-12-10 Thread MSavoritias
On 12/10/23 17:56, Vivien Kraus wrote: Le dimanche 10 décembre 2023 à 17:45 +0200, MSavoritias a écrit : There is also a trust issue. For acceptance, we need bridging. For bridging, we need policing. And for policing, we need people with time. That's a good question yeah. Whether we want brid

Re: Shutting down qa.guix?

2023-12-10 Thread Maxim Cournoyer
Hi, Christopher Baines writes: > Tobias Geerinckx-Rice writes: > >> Christopher Baines 写道: >>> it's not the most cost effective setup >> >> Has this been explained in more detail before? > > Probably not, beid is currently a CPX51 Hetzner cloud server costing > €65.33 a month. This has been use

Re: Should commits rather be buildable or small

2023-12-10 Thread Attila Lendvai
> > Define "buildable" and "unbuildable". > > > I used these definitions: a buildable commit does not have build > failures (or at least no new ones). An unbuildable commit introduces > new build failures (in this case a lot of them). > > Buildable commits are safe spots to land on with time-mac

Re: Should commits rather be buildable or small

2023-12-10 Thread Ricardo Wurmus
Attila Lendvai writes: >> I guess "required" here means that in some cases Guix's policy is to >> prefer small commits over buildable commits (with the previous >> definition). I at least don't see any technical reasons why it would be >> required. The question then becomes whether that policy

Re: Heisenbug

2023-12-10 Thread Ricardo Wurmus
Felix Lechner via "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." writes: > While executing meta-command: > error: label: unbound variable > >> ,reload > > While this gives > > While executing meta-command: > unknown file name for module # > > Also, what is a meta-command, please?

Re: Shutting down qa.guix?

2023-12-10 Thread Simon Tournier
Hi, On sam., 09 déc. 2023 at 11:54, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > I think this underlines a collective failure to get our act together. I do not consider a collective failure considering the payment for the service. About the maintenance of such service, that’s another question, IMHO. :-) > Anywa

Re: Should commits rather be buildable or small

2023-12-10 Thread Attila Lendvai
> > FWIW, this commit policy has always bothered me as a newcomer to > > Guix. pretty much everywhere else it's a major offence against your > > colleagues to commit something that breaks the build in any way. > > > In the last few months I’ve repeatedly seen assertions in a similar > style as th

Re: Should commits rather be buildable or small

2023-12-10 Thread Philip McGrath
On 12/10/23 18:20, Attila Lendvai wrote: FWIW, this commit policy has always bothered me as a newcomer to Guix. pretty much everywhere else it's a major offence against your colleagues to commit something that breaks the build in any way. In the last few months I’ve repeatedly seen assertions

Re: Ext4 corruption in some stable kernels

2023-12-10 Thread Leo Famulari
Everyone with commit privileges should feel free to push these patches to master if they seem okay. I won't be able to help today. Leo On Sun, Dec 10, 2023, at 00:35, Hilton Chain wrote: > Hi Felix (and Leo, Cc-ed) > > On Sun, 10 Dec 2023 11:00:47 +0800, > Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Gu

Re: Ext4 corruption in some stable kernels

2023-12-10 Thread Hilton Chain
On Mon, 11 Dec 2023 08:13:58 +0800, Leo Famulari wrote: > > Everyone with commit privileges should feel free to push these patches to > master if they seem okay. I won't be able to help today. OK, I have applied "[PATCH 2/8] gnu: linux-libre 6.1: Update to 6.1.66." from #67724 as 65334547674bdaeb

Re: RFI: Guix XMPP service.

2023-12-10 Thread Ada Stevenson
Hi, On 12/10/23 4:04 PM, MSavoritias wrote: On 12/10/23 17:56, Vivien Kraus wrote: Le dimanche 10 décembre 2023 à 17:45 +0200, MSavoritias a écrit : There is also a trust issue. For acceptance, we need bridging. For bridging, we need policing. And for policing, we need people with time. I a