On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 11:43:12AM -0500, myg...@gmail.com wrote:
> Agreed. The first step: STOP calling Guix a "package manager". Why?
> Users aren't shopping for a package manager. They either already have
> one, or expect one to come with the software they are looking for. They
> will think, "
On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 01:11:23PM -0500, myg...@gmail.com wrote:
> On 01/31/2018 at 18:27 Pjotr Prins writes:
>
> > On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 11:58:09AM -0500, myg...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> To be explicit, I added a couple target groups and indicated the product
> >> we would pitch with an x ...
> >
On 01/31/2018 at 18:27 Pjotr Prins writes:
> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 11:58:09AM -0500, myg...@gmail.com wrote:
>> To be explicit, I added a couple target groups and indicated the product
>> we would pitch with an x ...
>>
>> | Target Group| Guix | GuixSD | Motivation
On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 11:58:09AM -0500, myg...@gmail.com wrote:
> To be explicit, I added a couple target groups and indicated the product
> we would pitch with an x ...
>
> | Target Group| Guix | GuixSD | Motivation
>|
> |-
On 01/29/2018 at 08:37 Pjotr Prins writes:
> On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 11:14:15PM -0500, myg...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > I’m not a fan of sales messages and that kind of language
>> > (“introducing”, “the first foo to do bar”, etc); I also don’t like that
>> > these are all worded negatively, which is
On 01/30/2018 at 02:03 Ricardo Wurmus writes:
> Hi Malcolm,
>
>> Sorry for the MisCaPITaliZAtion
>
> No WoRRieS! It seems to be very common :)
>
>> Sorry if I lost the flow of the discussion. I entirely trust your
>> understanding of the focus of the discussion.
>
> No, your comments were spot o
On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 11:20:17PM +0100, Ricardo Wurmus wrote:
> However, I think that this is tangential to the question of whether to
> move the GuixSD description and intro to a separate page. If we added
> those sections they’d be only about Guix, not about GuixSD, no?
I am convinced that Gu
On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 11:20:17PM +0100, Ricardo Wurmus wrote:
> I like these testimonial style descriptions, and I think it makes sense
> to add separate sections for different archetypical users. (We already
> have a related section entitled “GuixSD and GNU Guix in your field”,
> which I found
George myglc2 Clemmer writes:
> Your comments are, IMO, right on
> the money WRT making the case for Guix/GuixSD.
I agree.
> Ricardo, do you have a suggestion of where/how to relocate this
> discussion?
Let’s keep it right here :) I only meant to get additional input on the
original question
> > de...@gnu.org; sirgazil
> > Subject: Re: website: say what Guix is at the very top
> >
> >
> > Hi Malcolm,
> >
> > > I entirely agree that with the right educational materials you are
> > > going to see have the possibility of appe
Hi Malcolm,
> Sorry for the MisCaPITaliZAtion
No WoRRieS! It seems to be very common :)
> Sorry if I lost the flow of the discussion. I entirely trust your
> understanding of the focus of the discussion.
No, your comments were spot on and very helpful. I’m just trying to
understand if your
t: Monday, January 29, 2018 4:20 PM
> To: Cook, Malcolm
> Cc: Pjotr Prins ; myg...@gmail.com; guix-
> de...@gnu.org; sirgazil
> Subject: Re: website: say what Guix is at the very top
>
>
> Hi Malcolm,
>
> > I entirely agree that with the right educational mater
Hi Malcolm,
> I entirely agree that with the right educational materials you are
> going to see have the possibility of appealing to other
> groups/cultures/biases.
Yes, I think that does make sense.
> Having a section for each of the 2**3 type of user might be the
> perfect compromise.
>
> Per
et spot?
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> -Original Message-
> From: Guix-devel [mailto:guix-devel-bounces+mec=stowers@gnu.org]
> On Behalf Of Pjotr Prins
> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 1:37 AM
> To: myg...@gmail.com
> Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org; sirgazil
> Subject: Re: website
On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 11:14:15PM -0500, myg...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I’m not a fan of sales messages and that kind of language
> > (“introducing”, “the first foo to do bar”, etc); I also don’t like that
> > these are all worded negatively, which is something we should avoid.
>
> OK but keep in mi
Hi Ricardo,
On 01/28/2018 at 17:24 Ricardo Wurmus writes:
> Hi George,
>
>> You misunderstand. I do not propose changing names. I do propose that
>> you present Guix + GuixSD to the outside world in a unified way. I meant
>> "GuixE" as a "handle" to that idea. Sorry if that was misleading.
>
>
l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes:
> Hi Chris,
>
> Chris Marusich skribis:
>
>> From adf588a9daa73072ad3f1b39581ba5881a6cf780 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
>> From: Chris Marusich
>> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2018 16:31:02 -0800
>> Subject: [PATCH] website: Clarify the descriptions of Guix and GuixSD.
>>
Hi Chris,
Chris Marusich skribis:
> From adf588a9daa73072ad3f1b39581ba5881a6cf780 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: Chris Marusich
> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2018 16:31:02 -0800
> Subject: [PATCH] website: Clarify the descriptions of Guix and GuixSD.
>
> * website/apps/base/templates/home.scm: Clarify
Hi George,
> You misunderstand. I do not propose changing names. I do propose that
> you present Guix + GuixSD to the outside world in a unified way. I meant
> "GuixE" as a "handle" to that idea. Sorry if that was misleading.
I understand the idea, and I recognize that this is a possible means
l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes:
> Hello,
>
> myg...@gmail.com skribis:
>
>> Before you build these two sites, how about considering a more unified
>> approach? IMO this will be easier for users to understand and require
>> less work. Using 'GuixE' to refer to everything in '(guix) Top' you
l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes:
> Hello,
>
> Chris Marusich skribis:
>
>> Ricardo Wurmus writes:
>>
>>> Hi Guix,
>>>
>>> on the website it starts right away with a list of features:
>>> “Liberating”, “Dependable”, and “Hackable”. But what is this thing
>>> called Guix?
>>>
>>> We should
On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 01:20:29PM -0500, myg...@gmail.com wrote:
> PRODUCT DESCRIPTION:
>
> The Guix software environment manager creates user environments that
> are completely and independently specified by users. Guix users are
> never are stuck needing software that a Sysadmin can't, won't, o
On 01/27/2018 at 17:14 Ludovic Courtès writes:
> Hello,
>
> myg...@gmail.com skribis:
>
>> Before you build these two sites, how about considering a more unified
>> approach? IMO this will be easier for users to understand and require
>> less work. Using 'GuixE' to refer to everything in '(guix) T
Hello,
myg...@gmail.com skribis:
> Before you build these two sites, how about considering a more unified
> approach? IMO this will be easier for users to understand and require
> less work. Using 'GuixE' to refer to everything in '(guix) Top' you
> could say:
I think changing names to address a
On 01/24/2018 at 15:22 Ludovic Courtès writes:
> Hello!
>
> Ricardo Wurmus skribis:
>
[...]
>> - The two sites should have separate Download sections.
[...]
> Agreed.
> So I guess we should start working in that direction.
[...]
Hello Ludo’ and Ricardo,
Before you build these two sites, how a
Hello,
myg...@gmail.com writes:
[...]
>> (I’m not as sure about these proposed individual changes as I am about
>> the proposal to separate the pages for Guix and GuixSD.)
>
> ISTM this difficulty in splitting the content across two pages is a
> reason to consider again how to unify the presenta
Hello!
Ricardo Wurmus skribis:
> Ludovic Courtès writes:
[...]
>> In principle I think it’s a good idea. In practice I’m not sure what
>> this would look like, though.
>>
>> For instance, does that mean /distro would be a “second home page”, with
>> screenshots, contacts, blog entries, basel
Hello,
Chris Marusich skribis:
> Ricardo Wurmus writes:
>
>> Hi Guix,
>>
>> on the website it starts right away with a list of features:
>> “Liberating”, “Dependable”, and “Hackable”. But what is this thing
>> called Guix?
>>
>> We should add a very short paragraph above that list to say what
On 01/21/2018 at 15:47 Ricardo Wurmus writes:
> Ludovic Courtès writes:
>
>> Ricardo Wurmus skribis:
>>
>>> It seems unfortunate to me that we have one shared website for GuixSD
>>> and Guix. As much as I love GuixSD, I think Guix is the main “product”
>>> and GuixSD would need to be moved to a
On 01/21/2018 at 23:04 Chris Marusich writes:
> Ricardo Wurmus writes:
>
>> Hi Guix,
>>
>> on the website it starts right away with a list of features:
>> “Liberating”, “Dependable”, and “Hackable”. But what is this thing
>> called Guix?
>>
>> We should add a very short paragraph above that list
Ricardo Wurmus writes:
> Hi Guix,
>
> on the website it starts right away with a list of features:
> “Liberating”, “Dependable”, and “Hackable”. But what is this thing
> called Guix?
>
> We should add a very short paragraph above that list to say what Guix
> and GuixSD are.
>
> What do you think
Ricardo,
Ricardo Wurmus wrote on 19/01/18 at 09:04:
>> I don't know who wrote the current intro, but I think it's pretty good.
>> Have you got negative feedback from curious visitors?
>
> Unfortunately, I have. The most common feedback is an expression of
> confusion about the difference between
Ludovic Courtès writes:
> Ricardo Wurmus skribis:
>
>> It seems unfortunate to me that we have one shared website for GuixSD
>> and Guix. As much as I love GuixSD, I think Guix is the main “product”
>> and GuixSD would need to be moved to a subsite. That’s primarily
>> because GuixSD can be e
On 01/19/2018 at 14:32 Ludovic Courtès writes:
> Ricardo Wurmus skribis:
>
>> It seems unfortunate to me that we have one shared website for GuixSD
>> and Guix. As much as I love GuixSD, I think Guix is the main “product”
>> and GuixSD would need to be moved to a subsite. That’s primarily
>> be
Hi Tobias,
> I don't know who wrote the current intro, but I think it's pretty good.
> Have you got negative feedback from curious visitors?
Unfortunately, I have. The most common feedback is an expression of
confusion about the difference between GuixSD and Guix.
But to be fair: this email wa
Hello,
(+ Cc: sirgazil.)
Ricardo Wurmus skribis:
> It seems unfortunate to me that we have one shared website for GuixSD
> and Guix. As much as I love GuixSD, I think Guix is the main “product”
> and GuixSD would need to be moved to a subsite. That’s primarily
> because GuixSD can be explaine
Hi George,
> Our immediate challenge is that we seem to think we have at least two
> products. We need to decide if we really have multiple products and, if
> we do, how many and what they are. Then we must clearly separate them
> and make it easy for potential customers to determine which one th
On 01/17/2018 at 18:30 Ricardo Wurmus writes:
> Hi Guix,
>
> on the website it starts right away with a list of features:
> “Liberating”, “Dependable”, and “Hackable”. But what is this thing
> called Guix?
>
> We should add a very short paragraph above that list to say what Guix
> and GuixSD are.
Ricardo,
I don't know who wrote the current intro, but I think it's pretty good.
Have you got negative feedback from curious visitors?
Ricardo Wurmus wrote on 17/01/18 at 18:30:
> Hi Guix,
>
> on the website it starts right away with a list of features:
> “Liberating”, “Dependable”, and “Hackabl
Hi Guix,
on the website it starts right away with a list of features:
“Liberating”, “Dependable”, and “Hackable”. But what is this thing
called Guix?
We should add a very short paragraph above that list to say what Guix
and GuixSD are.
What do you think?
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Ricardo
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