Re: Guix and FSDG

2019-11-26 Thread Giovanni Biscuolo
...] --8<---cut here---end--->8--- The "Guix and FSDG" relationship is very clear to me (also thanks to this thread) and I wish some sort of FSF FAQs on this specific topic in order to prevent future threads like this in the future :-D Sorry for the

Re: Guix and FSDG

2019-11-25 Thread zimoun
Hi, On Sat, 23 Nov 2019 at 19:00, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > Clément Lassieur skribis: > > > Indeed 'guix build --source' returns the freed source. However, the > > original archive does end up in /gnu/store, and its path in displayed > > during the build. > > (Only if you build from source, wit

Re: Guix and FSDG

2019-11-23 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hello, Clément Lassieur skribis: > Indeed 'guix build --source' returns the freed source. However, the > original archive does end up in /gnu/store, and its path in displayed > during the build. (Only if you build from source, without substitutes, etc.) The spirit of the FSDG is that the dist

Re: Guix and FSDG

2019-11-23 Thread Clément Lassieur
Giovanni Biscuolo writes: > please can you file a bug? > the bug could (should) be specific to the zpaq package No, it's common to all packages (use 'guix build -S --no-substitutes' to reproduce easily). And the documentation[1] doesn't say it shouldn't behave this way. It says: --8<-

Re: Guix and FSDG

2019-11-23 Thread Giovanni Biscuolo
clem...@lassieur.org (Clément Lassieur) writes: [...] > The former allows me to access zpaq64.exe and zpaq.exe although the > snippet is: > > --8<---cut here---start->8--- > (snippet > ;; Delete irrelevant pre-compiled binaries. > '(begin > (for-each dele

Re: Guix and FSDG

2019-11-23 Thread Giovanni Biscuolo
Hello, "Thompson, David" writes: [...] > This exact > circumstance was brought up in the early days of the Guix project when > FSDG compliance was a big topic of discussion because Ludovic and RMS > were making sure that Guix conformed to it. It is true that Guix will > download source archive

Re: Guix and FSDG

2019-11-22 Thread Clément Lassieur
Hi David, "Thompson, David" writes: > I believe this is incorrect and I will explain why. This exact > circumstance was brought up in the early days of the Guix project when > FSDG compliance was a big topic of discussion because Ludovic and RMS > were making sure that Guix conformed to it. It

Re: Guix and FSDG

2019-11-22 Thread Thompson, David
On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 2:20 PM Raghav Gururajan wrote: > > I completely agree with you. The way you explained, does show that Guix > comply with FSDG. The thing is, the semantics used in current version > of FSDG does not explain things well. That's why I pointed out that > FSDG require revision,

Re: Guix and FSDG

2019-11-22 Thread Raghav Gururajan
Hello David! > I believe this is incorrect and I will explain why. This exact > circumstance was brought up in the early days of the Guix project > when > FSDG compliance was a big topic of discussion because Ludovic and RMS > were making sure that Guix conformed to it. It is true that Guix > wi

Re: Guix and FSDG

2019-11-22 Thread Thompson, David
Hi, just a quick note to begin: Please do not cross-post to multiple mailing lists because it tends to cause confusion for everyone reading those lists. I have included only guix-devel in the CC list for this reply. On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 5:02 AM Raghav Gururajan wrote: > > (b) Facilitation of

Re: Guix and FSDG

2019-11-22 Thread ng0
Hi, I'm sorry for my last reply. At least it makes sense to get the definition right this time as this is a reoccuring topic. So whatever comes out of this should hopefully be enough to write about it. What threw me off was yet another email which CC'd many lists plus one individual person.

Re: Guix and FSDG

2019-11-22 Thread ng0
> Therefore, Guix DOES violate FSDG in this aspect. If you search the mailinglist archives you can see that you are not the first to try and roll up this argument. Ludovic, Ricardo or any of the other Guix maintainers will probably answer more in detail, but my short reply is that we've had this d

Guix and FSDG

2019-11-20 Thread Raghav Gururajan
program/software as output (Eg. -- disable-cleaning or --skip-deblobbing). I can see two ways to end the confusion between Guix and FSDG, once in for all. Either the FSDG remains unchanged and Guix gets removed from the FSD list (or) the FSDG gets revised and Guix remains on the FSD list. I am incl