Re: [PATCH] gnu: r: Update to 3.3.1.

2016-08-02 Thread Roel Janssen
myglc2 writes: > Roel Janssen writes: > >> myglc2 writes: >> >>> Pjotr Prins writes: >>> On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 01:49:00PM -0400, myglc2 wrote: > Guix has marvelous raw tools to do anything. The question is how to make > it simple enough for someone that is basically an R use

Re: [PATCH] gnu: r: Update to 3.3.1.

2016-08-01 Thread Ricardo Wurmus
myglc2 writes: > Ricardo Wurmus writes: > >> myglc2 writes: >> >>> I imagine that, in the spirit of guix, we also want a user to be able to >>> "help themself" instead of depending on a 'manager.' This would probably >>> require an additional R "package manager component" that is usable by a >

Re: [PATCH] gnu: r: Update to 3.3.1.

2016-08-01 Thread Ricardo Wurmus
Pjotr Prins writes: > On Mon, Aug 01, 2016 at 10:02:05PM +0200, Ricardo Wurmus wrote: >> We have importers that generate Guix package expressions from CRAN or >> Bioconductor. Taken one step further we might have a transparent >> wrapper to quickly install any version of a package even if it is

Re: [PATCH] gnu: r: Update to 3.3.1.

2016-08-01 Thread Pjotr Prins
On Mon, Aug 01, 2016 at 10:02:05PM +0200, Ricardo Wurmus wrote: > We have importers that generate Guix package expressions from CRAN or > Bioconductor. Taken one step further we might have a transparent > wrapper to quickly install any version of a package even if it is not > yet part of Guix. >

Re: [PATCH] gnu: r: Update to 3.3.1.

2016-08-01 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hi, Ricardo Wurmus skribis: > This obviously depends on the quality of the importers, but I think it > wouldn’t take much effort to make this a reality. The main problem with > offering magic like this is that it must be reliable or else it would > just be frustrating users. It’s indeed doable

Re: [PATCH] gnu: r: Update to 3.3.1.

2016-08-01 Thread myglc2
Ricardo Wurmus writes: > myglc2 writes: > >> I imagine that, in the spirit of guix, we also want a user to be able to >> "help themself" instead of depending on a 'manager.' This would probably >> require an additional R "package manager component" that is usable by a >> manager or user. Such a

Re: [PATCH] gnu: r: Update to 3.3.1.

2016-08-01 Thread myglc2
Roel Janssen writes: > myglc2 writes: > >> Pjotr Prins writes: >> >>> On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 01:49:00PM -0400, myglc2 wrote: >>> Guix has marvelous raw tools to do anything. The question is how to make it simple enough for someone that is basically an R user to take advantage of

Re: [PATCH] gnu: r: Update to 3.3.1.

2016-08-01 Thread Ricardo Wurmus
myglc2 writes: > I imagine that, in the spirit of guix, we also want a user to be able to > "help themself" instead of depending on a 'manager.' This would probably > require an additional R "package manager component" that is usable by a > manager or user. Such a thing would certainly showcase

Re: [PATCH] gnu: r: Update to 3.3.1.

2016-08-01 Thread Roel Janssen
myglc2 writes: > Pjotr Prins writes: > >> On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 01:49:00PM -0400, myglc2 wrote: >> >>> Guix has marvelous raw tools to do anything. The question is how to make >>> it simple enough for someone that is basically an R user to take >>> advantage of them. The challenge in guix R p

Re: [PATCH] gnu: r: Update to 3.3.1.

2016-08-01 Thread myglc2
Pjotr Prins writes: > On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 01:49:00PM -0400, myglc2 wrote: >> > I think what you're looking for in your hospital research lab is what >> > Pjotr describes as a certain check-out of the Guix source tree. >> >> But it is not simple to use. It is to technical an approach to appea

Re: [PATCH] gnu: r: Update to 3.3.1.

2016-08-01 Thread Ricardo Wurmus
Roel Janssen writes: > Dear Guix, > > With the following patch I would like to update R to 3.3.1. I tested > with R packages I regularly use and everything seems to work just fine. > > Is it OK to upgrade? In principle: yes. I’ll see if I can make updates to all R packages later, once your R

Re: [PATCH] gnu: r: Update to 3.3.1.

2016-07-31 Thread Pjotr Prins
On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 01:49:00PM -0400, myglc2 wrote: > > I think what you're looking for in your hospital research lab is what > > Pjotr describes as a certain check-out of the Guix source tree. > > But it is not simple to use. It is to technical an approach to appeal to > the medical researche

Re: [PATCH] gnu: r: Update to 3.3.1.

2016-07-31 Thread myglc2
Roel Janssen writes: >> On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 03:41:50PM -0400, myglc2 wrote: >>> I can assure you that if our users do guix pull and invisibly get a new >>> R release, their analyses will from time to time break. So we may want a >>> simple way for them to back down to a previous release. So..

Re: [PATCH] gnu: r: Update to 3.3.1.

2016-07-31 Thread Roel Janssen
myglc2 writes: > Pjotr Prins writes: > >> On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 03:41:50PM -0400, myglc2 wrote: >>> The workaround used by sysops where I work (hospital research lab) is to >>> give notice of R upgrades and to make previous releases available for >>> reference by ongoing projects. IMO, we shou

Re: [PATCH] gnu: r: Update to 3.3.1.

2016-07-31 Thread myglc2
Pjotr Prins writes: > On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 03:41:50PM -0400, myglc2 wrote: >> The workaround used by sysops where I work (hospital research lab) is to >> give notice of R upgrades and to make previous releases available for >> reference by ongoing projects. IMO, we should consider how the guix

Re: [PATCH] gnu: r: Update to 3.3.1.

2016-07-31 Thread myglc2
l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes: > myglc2 skribis: > >> I can assure you that if our users do guix pull and invisibly get a new >> R release, > > They need to to ‘guix pull’ *and* ‘guix package -u’. > >> their analyses will from time to time break. So we may want a simple >> way for them to

Re: [PATCH] gnu: r: Update to 3.3.1.

2016-07-31 Thread Roel Janssen
> On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 03:41:50PM -0400, myglc2 wrote: >> The workaround used by sysops where I work (hospital research lab) is to >> give notice of R upgrades and to make previous releases available for >> reference by ongoing projects. IMO, we should consider how the guix R >> recipe(s) might

Re: [PATCH] gnu: r: Update to 3.3.1.

2016-07-31 Thread Andreas Enge
Hello, On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 04:36:22PM +0200, Roel Janssen wrote: > Is it OK to upgrade? maybe wait until after the core-updates merge? Andreas

Re: [PATCH] gnu: r: Update to 3.3.1.

2016-07-30 Thread Pjotr Prins
On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 03:41:50PM -0400, myglc2 wrote: > The workaround used by sysops where I work (hospital research lab) is to > give notice of R upgrades and to make previous releases available for > reference by ongoing projects. IMO, we should consider how the guix R > recipe(s) might suppor

Re: [PATCH] gnu: r: Update to 3.3.1.

2016-07-30 Thread Ludovic Courtès
myglc2 skribis: > I can assure you that if our users do guix pull and invisibly get a new > R release, They need to to ‘guix pull’ *and* ‘guix package -u’. > their analyses will from time to time break. So we may want a simple > way for them to back down to a previous release. So.. I am thinkin

Re: [PATCH] gnu: r: Update to 3.3.1.

2016-07-30 Thread myglc2
f8b2f287d26c4a4a9a02a7277dc940ed667 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 > From: Roel Janssen > Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2016 16:33:17 +0200 > Subject: [PATCH] gnu: r: Update to 3.3.1. > > * gnu/packages/statistics.scm (r): Update to 3.3.1. > --- > gnu/packages/statistics.scm | 4 ++-- > 1 fil

[PATCH] gnu: r: Update to 3.3.1.

2016-07-30 Thread Roel Janssen
sen Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2016 16:33:17 +0200 Subject: [PATCH] gnu: r: Update to 3.3.1. * gnu/packages/statistics.scm (r): Update to 3.3.1. --- gnu/packages/statistics.scm | 4 ++-- 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/gnu/packages/statistics.scm b/gnu/packages/statistics.