Re: [WIP Patch] Adding an FHS container to guix shell

2022-07-20 Thread John Kehayias
Thanks everyone for the useful comments and suggestions! I took most of them into account in polishing the patch for submission and more formal review (with the exception of keeping in glibc-for-fhs and the ld cache; to be discussed). I feel the patch looks much better now thanks to you all. Pl

Re: debbugs irritation Was: [WIP Patch] Adding an FHS container to guix shell

2022-07-20 Thread John Kehayias
Hi, --- Original Message --- On Wednesday, July 20th, 2022 at 8:20 PM, Csepp wrote: > > I was looking for this patch on issues.guix.gnu.org and could not figure > out why it's not there and I'd just like to point out that having like 6 > mailing lists with at least two separate indexes i

Re: [WIP Patch] Adding an FHS container to guix shell

2022-07-20 Thread John Kehayias
Hi Maxime, --- Original Message --- On Wednesday, July 20th, 2022 at 7:49 PM, Maxime Devos wrote: > > On 20-07-2022 23:22, John Kehayias wrote: > > > I was thinking mostly of binaries, though I've also encountered code that > > wanted to read the ldcache (e.g. parsing ldconfig -p directl

debbugs irritation Was: [WIP Patch] Adding an FHS container to guix shell

2022-07-20 Thread Csepp
I was looking for this patch on issues.guix.gnu.org and could not figure out why it's not there and I'd just like to point out that having like 6 mailing lists with at least two separate indexes is... not great :) I appreciate everyone's work on Mumi and Debbugs but... maybe this is an avoidable

Re: [WIP Patch] Adding an FHS container to guix shell

2022-07-20 Thread Maxime Devos
On 20-07-2022 23:22, John Kehayias wrote: I was thinking mostly of binaries, though I've also encountered code that wanted to read the ldcache (e.g. parsing ldconfig -p directly), for some reason. Do you have an example in the wild? Greetings, Maxime. OpenPGP_0x49E3EE22191725EE.asc Descri

Re: [WIP Patch] Adding an FHS container to guix shell

2022-07-20 Thread John Kehayias
Hi Ludo’, --- Original Message --- On Monday, July 18th, 2022 at 7:40 AM, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > Hello! > > John Kehayias skribis: > > > 2. Typically binaries will expect the ld loader to use > > /etc/ld.so.cache for finding libraries. > > Not necessarily. /etc/ld.so.cache is an optimiz

Re: Guix Without Scheme

2022-07-20 Thread Munyoki Kilyungi
Hi Csepp! Csepp anaandika: > jgart writes: > >> Hi Guixers, >> >> I just wanted to share this presentation that Singpolyma gave titled "Guix >> Without Scheme": >> >> https://archive.org/details/singpolyma-guix-without-scheme >> >> Through the course of the presentation, singpolyma demos how t

Re: Could Guix System eventually run on top of HyperbolaBSD ? slightly off topic

2022-07-20 Thread Maxime Devos
On 20-07-2022 18:03, Raghav Gururajan wrote: [2] IIUC, HyperbolaBSD (OS) consist of a custom-made kernel and a custom-made userspace, both of which the components are either derived from OpenBSD System or written from scratch. So two things can be explored, *separately*. (A) Guix System with

Re: Could Guix System eventually run on top of HyperbolaBSD ? slightly off topic

2022-07-20 Thread Raghav Gururajan
Hello Guix! I'd like to add following points to this discourse: [1] The idea isn't off-topic, because, Guix is meant to be kernel agnostic. So exploring HyperbolaBSD as a kernel option for Guix is with in the prospect. [2] IIUC, HyperbolaBSD (OS) consist of a custom-made kernel and a custom

Re: Guix Without Scheme

2022-07-20 Thread Csepp
jgart writes: > Hi Guixers, > > I just wanted to share this presentation that Singpolyma gave titled "Guix > Without Scheme": > > https://archive.org/details/singpolyma-guix-without-scheme > > Through the course of the presentation, singpolyma demos how to build > a Guix package with javascrip

Re: native-inputs: Go for completeness or minimalism?

2022-07-20 Thread Maxime Devos
On 20-07-2022 10:33, Hartmut Goebel wrote: Hi, shall native-inputs be as complete as possible or as minimal as possible? Background: I just stepped over a couple of packages where upstream requires a lot of code-quality checkers which are not actually run when running the tests. (More specif

native-inputs: Go for completeness or minimalism?

2022-07-20 Thread Hartmut Goebel
Hi, shall native-inputs be as complete as possible or as minimal as possible? Background: I just stepped over a couple of packages where upstream requires a lot of code-quality checkers which are not actually run when running the tests. (More specific: These are Python packages demanding tool