Re: Guix as a system vs as an end-user dev tool (re: Building a software toolchain that works)

2022-03-19 Thread Yasuaki Kudo
This is heading in the right direction - in my analysis, many things we do, including Free Software, are all forms of creative subversion of Capitalism. We need note creativity, not less 😄 > On Mar 20, 2022, at 03:19, Ryan Prior wrote: > > Zimoun wrote: >> Today, Guix provides a script that

Re: Guix as a system vs as an end-user dev tool (re: Building a software toolchain that works)

2022-03-19 Thread Ryan Prior
Zimoun wrote: > Today, Guix provides a script that allows to install on any foreign Linux > distribution. [...] Guix provides a “nightly“ VM. And, IIRC, Guix is also > available via upstream Gnome boxes. Somehow, it is already “Guix for > Desktop”, no? ;-) An important bit of context here is th

Guix as a system vs as an end-user dev tool (re: Building a software toolchain that works)

2022-03-19 Thread zimoun
Hi, > Technically, I think we could use a similar approach to the Docker for > Desktop system: a "Guix for Desktop" installs software to create and > manage a minimal Guix System virtual machine which automatically updates > and reconfigures itself, requiring no manual administration by the > end-

Windows Subsystem for Linux

2022-03-19 Thread zimoun
Hi, > I run Guix including GUI applications from Windows via WSL2 (Windows > Subsystem for Linux). It may help some to try it out if this setup was > easier and more documented, though I suppose that is somewhat prevented > to go via official channels by the FSDG guidelines. Cool! I knew that

Re: Fetching sources using Guix (re: Building a software toolchain that works)

2022-03-19 Thread Jonathan McHugh
Hi Ryan, March 19, 2022 1:08 AM, "Ryan Prior" wrote: > One of the side-threads in "Building a software toolchain that works" was > essentially this: > > If I fetch sources for a package using Guix, with the intention to make > changes and then build and > test the software myself, what shoul

Re: Guix as a system vs as an end-user dev tool (re: Building a software toolchain that works)

2022-03-19 Thread Jonathan McHugh
Hi Ryan, Perhaps Im being cynical but opening the doorway to lots of plug-and-play users atm could overwhelm the people heroically stabilising and smoothing out the OS. Jonathan March 19, 2022 1:21 AM, "Ryan Prior" mailto:rpr...@protonmail.com?to=%22Ryan%20Prior%22%20)> wrote: One side-thread

Re: Guix as a system vs as an end-user dev tool (re: Building a software toolchain that works)

2022-03-19 Thread Liliana Marie Prikler
Hi, Am Samstag, dem 19.03.2022 um 00:20 + schrieb Ryan Prior: > One side-thread in "Building a software toolchain that works" notes > that Guix faces challenges for adoption because it's not readily > available to users of proprietary operating systems like macOS and > Windows. That's true to

Re: Fetching sources using Guix (re: Building a software toolchain that works)

2022-03-19 Thread Maxime Devos
Ryan Prior schreef op za 19-03-2022 om 00:08 [+]: > Would it be feasible or desirable to create a set of "reason" > symbols, similar to our "licenses," and attach a reason (or unknown?) > to each snippet and patch? Then we can expose meaningful data to the > end-user about patches & snippets th