Re: Parallel guix builds can trample?

2022-01-11 Thread Philip Beadling
Thanks for reply Ricardo. The source in each one will be slightly different and although I only specify commit id in the package, each package commit id will reference a different branch. To give some context, each commit id relates to a different Pull Request branch. After my integration sour

Re: Planet of Guix-related posts?

2022-01-11 Thread André A . Gomes
Matt writes: > On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 10:21:51 -0500 zimoun > wrote > > > (On a side note between parenthesis, we should avoid to fall into the > > "Package Definition" tutorial fallacy; as explained here for monads > > > https://byorgey.wordpress.com/2009/01/12/abstraction-intuitio

Re: Guix wiki

2022-01-11 Thread Matt
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 10:30:22 -0500 Tobias Geerinckx-Rice wrote > Hullo Matt, > > Matt 写道: > > I feel like it also says that community isn't important to us. > > I understand how you could reach a flawed conclusion from a flawed > assumption: > > > Wikis are synonymous with

Re: Guix wiki

2022-01-11 Thread Matt
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 18:18:25 -0500 Ricardo Wurmus wrote > This is where we disagree. I’ve wasted so much time in my life > following outdated or wrong instructions on forums or wikis. I really > don’t want to see anything half-baked anywhere near this project. There > are few

Re: Guix Documentation Meetup

2022-01-11 Thread Matt
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 21:57:03 -0500 Matt wrote > > On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 20:20:30 -0500 jgart wrote > > > Have you read ambrevar's post called 'Guix Profiles in Practice'? > > > > Unfortunately ambrevar's blog seems to be down at the moment: > > > > https://am

Re: Guix Documentation Meetup

2022-01-11 Thread Matt
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 20:20:30 -0500 jgart wrote > Have you read ambrevar's post called 'Guix Profiles in Practice'? > > Unfortunately ambrevar's blog seems to be down at the moment: > > https://ambrevar.xyz/guix-profiles/index.html > No, I haven't. Thanks! It's archived: ht

Re: Guix wiki

2022-01-11 Thread Matt
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 10:17:43 -0500 Ricardo Wurmus wrote > > Matt writes: > > > To me, it says something like, we don't actually care about your > > contribution: you have to literally buy in first. > > No, you do not. I stand corrected. Luis Felipe kindly pointed out what

Re: Guix wiki

2022-01-11 Thread Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
Hi Zimoun, I'm disappointed by the ‘bikeshedding’ insult. I really don't care what you call it. - cathedral, as it is today I object to redefining loaded terms to promote it. Kind regards, T G-R signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Guix wiki

2022-01-11 Thread Matt
On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 03:29:35 -0500 Josua Stingelin wrote > I've been following the gnunet for a while so I felt qualified to comment. > > > Concern 1: guix will be soon be distributed over gnunet > Guix could provide an endpoint in the gnunet network for users that prefer to > u

Re: Planet of Guix-related posts?

2022-01-11 Thread Matt
On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 10:21:51 -0500 zimoun wrote > (On a side note between parenthesis, we should avoid to fall into the > "Package Definition" tutorial fallacy; as explained here for monads > https://byorgey.wordpress.com/2009/01/12/abstraction-intuition-and-the-monad-tutorial-fall

Re: Guix Documentation Meetup

2022-01-11 Thread jgart
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 19:59:37 -0500 Matt wrote: > On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 11:24:20 -0500 jgart wrote > > > I'm looking forward to having you at the next docs meetup: > > > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2022-01/msg00189.html > > > > Are there any particular sections

Re: Guix Documentation Meetup

2022-01-11 Thread Matt
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 11:24:20 -0500 jgart wrote > I'm looking forward to having you at the next docs meetup: > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2022-01/msg00189.html > > Are there any particular sections in the guix manual that you would like > to work on in the m

Re: Guix wiki

2022-01-11 Thread Ricardo Wurmus
Attila Lendvai writes: > sending a patch to the manual is a way higher threshold than editing a > wiki, especially when it's someone's first contribution. and some > random, half-baked copy-paste doesn't belong in the manual, while it > may be very useful when found in a wiki using the search e

Re: Parallel guix builds can trample?

2022-01-11 Thread Ricardo Wurmus
Phil writes: > I update the same single package on each channel locally with a > different git commit id and package version. So 12 variations of the > same package, accessing different commit ids, in the same package's > source repo, and having different package versions in Guix. Do they hav

Parallel guix builds can trample?

2022-01-11 Thread Phil
Hi all, I'm seeing strange issues when running many "guix build" commands of the same package simultaneously on the same linux account/server at the same time. Tracing this requires a lot of detective work, so for now I've omitted the logs - my initial question is - am I doing something which is

Re: Guix wiki

2022-01-11 Thread Attila Lendvai
> > There is something here: > > https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:Guix [...] > I was thrilled to see a wiki link on the homepage and disgusted to > see that it didn't actually foster community. In fact, there's > strife immediately within the "community" wiki, the simple fact it > exists, let a

Re: Packing Emacs 28.0.91 with native compilation

2022-01-11 Thread André A . Gomes
Ryan Prior writes: > Hey André, glad you're working on this! > > I have an Emacs package with native-compilation, pgtk, sqlite3, xinput2, and > xwidgets that I call "emacs-edge" and have been using daily with Spacemacs. > [1] > > Hope you're able to get yours working, I'd love to move back to a

Re: Packing Emacs 28.0.91 with native compilation

2022-01-11 Thread André A . Gomes
Maxime Devos writes: > André A. Gomes schreef op di 11-01-2022 om 22:13 [+0300]: >> Maxime Devos writes: >> >> > > A log below. >> > > >> > > --8<---cut here---start->8--- >> > > configure: error: The installed libgccjit failed to compile and run a >> > > tes

Re: Packing Emacs 28.0.91 with native compilation

2022-01-11 Thread André A . Gomes
Malte Gerdes writes: > Hi, > > https://github.com/flatwhatson/guix-channel > > Contains a working Emacs 28.0.90. Thank you! -- André A. Gomes "Free Thought, Free World"

Re: Packing Emacs 28.0.91 with native compilation

2022-01-11 Thread Ryan Prior
Hey André, glad you're working on this! I have an Emacs package with native-compilation, pgtk, sqlite3, xinput2, and xwidgets that I call "emacs-edge" and have been using daily with Spacemacs. [1] Hope you're able to get yours working, I'd love to move back to an upstream Guix package instead o

Re: Packing Emacs 28.0.91 with native compilation

2022-01-11 Thread Malte Gerdes
Hi, https://github.com/flatwhatson/guix-channel Contains a working Emacs 28.0.90. Hope this helps, Malte On Tue, 11 Jan 2022, 20:42 Maxime Devos, wrote: > André A. Gomes schreef op di 11-01-2022 om 22:13 [+0300]: > > Maxime Devos writes: > > > > > > A log below. > > > > > > > > --8<-

Re: Packing Emacs 28.0.91 with native compilation

2022-01-11 Thread Maxime Devos
André A. Gomes schreef op di 11-01-2022 om 22:13 [+0300]: > Maxime Devos writes: > > > > A log below. > > > > > > --8<---cut here---start->8--- > > > configure: error: The installed libgccjit failed to compile and run a > > > test program using > > > the libg

Re: bug#53166: [PATCH] website: Announce Guix days!

2022-01-11 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Howdy! Julien Lepiller skribis: >>From b1ed3af5838b65293441f62e5d6447357be849b4 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 > From: Julien Lepiller > Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 18:05:05 +0100 > Subject: [PATCH] website: Add conference announcement. > > * website/posts/online-guix-days-2022-announce-1.md: New file. >

Re: Assisting reviewing & committing with tags?

2022-01-11 Thread Leo Famulari
On Sun, Jan 09, 2022 at 11:54:25AM +0100, Maxime Devos wrote: > Hi guix reviewers and committers, > > WDYT of tagging reviewed patches that look good with a usertag, > e.g. 'reviewed-looks-good': > > https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/pkgreport.cgi?tag=reviewed-looks-good&users=guix > > then if a commi

Re: Guix Documentation Meetup

2022-01-11 Thread Matt
> I don't know how many people in the community have > non-CS/Unix/programming backgrounds so I share some personal thoughts > below. It's not that I want to share my life, but it might resonate > with the experiences of others. Thank you for sharing your story. It resonates with me as mine i

Re: Guix wiki

2022-01-11 Thread zimoun
Hi Tobias, I agree with your words. And probably my wrong choice of words to convey my points. On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 at 18:55, Tobias Geerinckx-Rice wrote: > > - cathedral, as it is today > > This is revisionist. The Bazaar model perfectly describes Guix, Well, I do not think the Cookbook is

Re: Packing Emacs 28.0.91 with native compilation

2022-01-11 Thread André A . Gomes
Maxime Devos writes: >> A log below. >> >> --8<---cut here---start->8--- >> configure: error: The installed libgccjit failed to compile and run a test >> program using >> the libgccjit library; see config.log for the details of the failure. >> [...] > > confi

Re: Packing Emacs 28.0.91 with native compilation

2022-01-11 Thread Maxime Devos
Hi, André A. Gomes schreef op di 11-01-2022 om 21:32 [+0300]: > Hi Guix, > > I tried to package Emacs as mentioned in the subject without success. > I'm wondering if someone else has done it already. Note that I have few > experience. > > Please find my attempt below. > > https://git.sr.ht/~aa

Packing Emacs 28.0.91 with native compilation

2022-01-11 Thread André A . Gomes
Hi Guix, I tried to package Emacs as mentioned in the subject without success. I'm wondering if someone else has done it already. Note that I have few experience. Please find my attempt below. https://git.sr.ht/~aadcg/aadcg-guix-channel/tree/master/item/packages/aadcg-emacs.scm A log below. -

Re: Guix wiki

2022-01-11 Thread Jonathan McHugh
Hi Matt, Thanks for an interesting and thoughtful thread. FYI, I am developing an interpreting application that will be mixing Emacs-Hyperboles tree orientated format with Gemini protocol's GemText format (as well as some classification approaches). Potentially it can (eventually) make a good

Re: Guix wiki

2022-01-11 Thread André A . Gomes
Tobias Geerinckx-Rice writes: > Hi Simon, all, > > I'll give your long and thoughtful reply the attention it deserves > when I have time, but there's another misleading tangent that has > bothered me (elsewhere) in this discussion: > >> - cathedral, as it is today > > This is revisionist. The

Re: Guix wiki

2022-01-11 Thread Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
Hi Simon, all, I'll give your long and thoughtful reply the attention it deserves when I have time, but there's another misleading tangent that has bothered me (elsewhere) in this discussion: - cathedral, as it is today This is revisionist. The Bazaar model perfectly describes Guix, whe

Re: Guix wiki

2022-01-11 Thread zimoun
Hi Tobias, all, On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 at 16:30, Tobias Geerinckx-Rice wrote: > Guix cares about community very much. Many of us care very little > for wikis, having seen how they attract much outdated and > incorrect information and spam. Wikis are high-maintenance. I agree with these words… >

Re: 03/06: style: Add support for "newline forms".

2022-01-11 Thread Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
Hi Ludo'! Sigh. Sorry. I know what this will sound like. :-) guix-comm...@gnu.org 写道: + ('base32 '(sha256 origin)) I know this is your style, but I would *really* prefer this to be: + ('source '(package)) instead. I know! But wait! I think that's defensible: for the same reason

Re: Guix wiki

2022-01-11 Thread Luis Felipe
Hi, Matt. On Tuesday, January 11th, 2022 at 1:31 PM, Matt wrote: > There is something here: > https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:Guix > Good point and it's already linked from the Guix homepage. Trouble is, it > only seems editable by FSF associate members (which costs $120 or $60 for > stude

Re: Guix Documentation Meetup This Saturday (January 15)

2022-01-11 Thread jgart
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 17:23:38 +0100 Oliver Propst wrote: > On 2022-01-11 17:01, jgart wrote: > > Hi Guixers, > > Hi Jgart thanks for the *note. > > *will try to attend the meeting. Hi Oliver, Cool, hope to see you there! all best, jgart

Re: Guix Documentation Meetup

2022-01-11 Thread jgart
On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 08:15:34 -0500 Matt wrote: > > Also if I understand things correctly there are > > actually plans to host a documentation meetup this Saturday (maybe at > > around 10:30 AM ET as the last ones). > > Thank you! I should be able to attend. > > Is that January 15, at 10:30

Re: Guix Documentation Meetup This Saturday (January 15)

2022-01-11 Thread Oliver Propst
On 2022-01-11 17:01, jgart wrote: Hi Guixers, Hi Jgart thanks for the *note. *will try to attend the meeting. -- Kinds regards Oliver Propst https://twitter.com/Opropst

Re: Guix wiki

2022-01-11 Thread Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
Hullo Matt, Matt 写道: I feel like it also says that community isn't important to us. I understand how you could reach a flawed conclusion from a flawed assumption: Wikis are synonymous with community. But it's still circular, wrong, and frankly quite offensive. Guix cares about community

Guix Documentation Meetup This Saturday (January 15)

2022-01-11 Thread jgart
Hi Guixers, I want to invite you to the second Guix Documentation Meetup this Saturday, Jan. 15, 2022. The meetup will take place on Big Blue Button at the following room: https://meet.nixnet.services/b/jga-rtw-ahw-yky I want to thank nixnet for hosting the BBB! The meeting will start at 10:30

Re: Guix wiki

2022-01-11 Thread Ricardo Wurmus
Matt writes: > To me, it says something like, we don't actually care about your > contribution: you have to literally buy in first. No, you do not. I see a lot of emotional language here, but the fact is: you can contribute to our documentation by sending your text. It’s that simple. You do

Re: Planet of Guix-related posts?

2022-01-11 Thread Matt
> Hi, > > My two points are: > > 1. we could have a Guix planet -- we should avoid the cathedral for > quick recipes > 2. too many different goals are directed to the Cookbook > > > Well, my point is: instead of cathedral with an authority accepting > patches after review, why not

Re: Guix wiki

2022-01-11 Thread Matt
> There are definitely wikis which use fairly simple markup > (e.g. markdown) and can usefully be read and updated online via a web > interface and git offline or online. The one I'm most familiar with is > ikiwiki (available in guix), though don't have a lot of experience > updating it via th

Re: Guix wiki

2022-01-11 Thread Matt
> There is something here: > https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:Guix Good point and it's already linked from the Guix homepage. Trouble is, it only seems editable by FSF associate members (which costs $120 or $60 for students). Am I missing something? While that meets the technical requiremen

Re: [PATCH] website: Announce Guix days!

2022-01-11 Thread Luis Felipe
On Tuesday, January 11th, 2022 at 9:41 AM, Julien Lepiller wrote: > Thanks, I like this better. Can you send a patch for it? You're welcome. Here's the updated patch.From 3e4e5b28ff791a6484bc82bfb5813d140cac3573 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Luis Felipe Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 17:24:41 -0500 S

Re: [PATCH] website: Announce Guix days!

2022-01-11 Thread zimoun
Hi, Really cool! Thanks for the nice artwork. I am a bit late to the party but the post LGTM. :-) Cheers, simon

Re: version-1.4.0 branch updated

2022-01-11 Thread Maxime Devos
Efraim Flashner schreef op di 11-01-2022 om 12:39 [+0200]: > On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 02:57:09PM -0500, Maxim Cournoyer wrote: > > If nobody has another world rebuilding change deemed necessary in time > > for the release, I suggest we enable substitutes on the branch soon, and > > then get busy try

Re: version-1.4.0 branch updated

2022-01-11 Thread Efraim Flashner
On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 02:57:09PM -0500, Maxim Cournoyer wrote: > If nobody has another world rebuilding change deemed necessary in time > for the release, I suggest we enable substitutes on the branch soon, and > then get busy trying to get 'make dist' to succeed so that we can issue > a first RC

Re: [PATCH] website: Announce Guix days!

2022-01-11 Thread Julien Lepiller
There shouldn't be a need for the language tag at all, because the server uses the user's language in that case. I'll fix the url and irc link. I'd love to get the correct png, thanks! Le 10 janvier 2022 20:52:10 GMT+01:00, Luis Felipe a écrit : >Hi, Julien. > >On Monday, January 10th, 2022 at

Re: [PATCH] website: Announce Guix days!

2022-01-11 Thread Julien Lepiller
The variant is wonderful! I'll use that in the announcement. Thanks! Le 10 janvier 2022 23:44:26 GMT+01:00, Luis Felipe a écrit : >I'm attaching a patch that fixes the jagged text in the source SVG and adds a >variant of the poster. And here are PNGs from each of them: > >Original (fixed text):

Re: [PATCH] website: Announce Guix days!

2022-01-11 Thread Julien Lepiller
Thanks, I like this better. Can you send a patch for it? Le 11 janvier 2022 01:47:02 GMT+01:00, Luis Felipe a écrit : >On Monday, January 10th, 2022 at 10:44 PM, Luis Felipe > wrote: > >> I'm attaching a patch that fixes the jagged text in the source SVG and adds >> a variant of the poster. An

Re: version-1.4.0 branch updated

2022-01-11 Thread Ricardo Wurmus
Leo Famulari writes: > On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 07:31:45PM -0500, Maxim Cournoyer wrote: >> The CI hasn't yet been switched on to build the branch yet; let's give a >> bit more time for other changes like this to have a chance to be >> considered/merged and then switch it on! Perhaps Wednesday.