Re: GNU Guix 1.3.0rc1 available for testing!

2021-05-03 Thread Maxim Cournoyer
Hi Leo, Thanks for the feedback! Leo Famulari writes: > On Sat, May 01, 2021 at 10:52:18PM -0400, Maxim Cournoyer wrote: >> > https://guix.gnu.org/manual/en/ >> > https://guix.gnu.org/manual/devel/en/ >> >> Thank you for pointing that issue; I caught the problem with >> guix-install.sh before

Re: guix-install.sh: Add support for more than one signing key.

2021-05-03 Thread Maxim Cournoyer
Hi Tobias, Tobias Geerinckx-Rice writes: > Maxim, > > Maxim Cournoyer 写道: >> The forthcoming 1.3.0 release will be signed with my personal >> GnuPG key > > \o/ > > Don't forget to also update OPENPGP-SIGNING-KEY-{ID,URL} in > doc/guix.texi on the master and release-1.3.0 branches. Now done! Th

Re: bug#48173: [PATCH] maint: Do not xz-compress ISO images.

2021-05-03 Thread Maxim Cournoyer
Hi, Julien Lepiller writes: [...] >>In what sense does it break the string freeze? >> >>I understand translations would appear as below 100% on Weblate, but I >>checked guix.{fr,es,de}.info and they all read well after this change. >> >>Am I missing something? > > po4a is not that intelligent.

Re: A "cosmetic changes" commit that removes security fixes

2021-05-03 Thread Bengt Richter
Hi Pierre, On +2021-05-03 09:25:21 +0200, Pierre Neidhardt wrote: > Hi Giovanni, > > > Guix is a GNU project and AFAIU GNU project management is well > > documented: > > > > https://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-structure.html > > This applies to GNU at the top level, but it does not specify how > sub-pro

Re: GNU Guix 1.3.0rc1 available for testing!

2021-05-03 Thread Leo Famulari
On Mon, May 03, 2021 at 09:38:56PM +0200, Tissevert wrote: > I've just given the binary tarball a spin on Devuan. Worked almost flawlessly > (daemonize wasn't installed and I missed the part when it was mentioned > because > I was a bit in a hurry but apart from that the overall experience was gre

Re: GNU Guix 1.3.0rc1 available for testing!

2021-05-03 Thread Tissevert
Hi !! I've just given the binary tarball a spin on Devuan. Worked almost flawlessly (daemonize wasn't installed and I missed the part when it was mentioned because I was a bit in a hurry but apart from that the overall experience was great — the guix text art was surprising in a good kind of way).

Re: ISO image: to xz or not to xz?

2021-05-03 Thread Vagrant Cascadian
On 2021-05-03, Tobias Geerinckx-Rice wrote: > Tangent: I sense some undeserved mysticism surrounding squashfs. > It is not designed to be loop-mounted, any more than ext2 was. It > does not enjoy it. People should stop doing it. The only mysticism I see here is attributing enjoyment to a files

Re: ISO image: to xz or not to xz?

2021-05-03 Thread Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
Hi Vagrant! Tangent: I sense some undeserved mysticism surrounding squashfs. It is not designed to be loop-mounted, any more than ext2 was. It does not enjoy it. People should stop doing it. But they won't, because many distributions still insist that the same installer image must be both

Re: ISO image: to xz or not to xz?

2021-05-03 Thread Vagrant Cascadian
On 2021-05-03, Leo Famulari wrote: > On Mon, May 03, 2021 at 01:47:02PM -0300, Alexandre Oliva wrote: >> Indeed, install ISOs normally hold already-compressed filesystems or >> files, so recompressing the .iso doesn't gain much if at all. > > To quote the introductory message of this thread: > > "T

Re: ISO image: to xz or not to xz?

2021-05-03 Thread Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
Alexandre Oliva 写道: Consider using something like a loopback-mounted squashfs for the bulk of the data in the install media for a future release. Read . I did play with the obvious alternative, but got so bored -- squashfs is no forgotten 1990s Linux-only e

Re: Guix help page

2021-05-03 Thread Vincent Legoll
Hello, On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 4:11 PM Luis Felipe wrote: > I just sent a patch to add this (https://issues.guix.gnu.org/48187/). At a cursory glance, it LGTM. Thanks a lot. -- Vincent Legoll

Re: linux-libre source tarballs

2021-05-03 Thread Leo Famulari
On Mon, May 03, 2021 at 01:39:54PM -0300, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > You don't have to clone anything. If all you want is a tarball, use > 'git archive --remote'. Thanks, I didn't know about this feature. Is the tarball generation "stable" across Git releases? Or is it subject to change? We had thi

Re: ISO image: to xz or not to xz?

2021-05-03 Thread Leo Famulari
On Mon, May 03, 2021 at 01:47:02PM -0300, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > Indeed, install ISOs normally hold already-compressed filesystems or > files, so recompressing the .iso doesn't gain much if at all. To quote the introductory message of this thread: "The xz-compressed image is 23% smaller, which

Re: Criticisms of my "tone" (was Re: A "cosmetic changes" commit that removes security fixes)

2021-05-03 Thread Mark H Weaver
Hi Leo, Leo Prikler writes: > Am Montag, den 03.05.2021, 05:00 -0400 schrieb Mark H Weaver: >> Leo Prikler writes: >> >> > Am Samstag, den 01.05.2021, 23:13 -0400 schrieb Mark H Weaver: >> > > I don't think I fumbled on the facts at all. It's true that I >> > > didn't yet have _all_ of the re

Re: ISO image: to xz or not to xz?

2021-05-03 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Apr 28, 2021, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > However, it’s apparently quite unusual to distribute compressed ISOs and > some services/tools such as libosinfo require plain ISOs (uncompressed). Indeed, install ISOs normally hold already-compressed filesystems or files, so recompressing the .iso does

Re: linux-libre source tarballs

2021-05-03 Thread Alexandre Oliva
Hello, Leo, On May 1, 2021, Leo Famulari wrote: > it's not "source code" in the GNU sense, which is the "preferred form > of the work for making changes in it": That's not accurate. Linux-libre sources, whether obtained from a git repository or from a tarball, are just as suitable for kernel

Re: bug#48173: [PATCH] maint: Do not xz-compress ISO images.

2021-05-03 Thread Julien Lepiller
Le 3 mai 2021 11:39:03 GMT-04:00, "Ludovic Courtès" a écrit : >Hi Julien, > >Julien Lepiller skribis: > >>> --- a/doc/guix.texi >>> +++ b/doc/guix.texi >>> @@ -2099,7 +2099,7 @@ about their support in GNU/Linux. >>> >>> An ISO-9660 installation image that can be written to a USB stick >or >

Re: bug#48173: [PATCH] maint: Do not xz-compress ISO images.

2021-05-03 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Julien Lepiller skribis: > I have to ask about the patch title: what does "maint" mean? It means “maintenance”. Some GNU packages use this convention to categorize changes related to “maintenance” in a broad sense, things that are not user-visible. Thanks for paying attention. ;-) Ludo’.

Re: linux-libre source tarballs (disable "deblob-check"?)

2021-05-03 Thread Leo Famulari
On Sat, May 01, 2021 at 10:45:22PM -0400, Leo Famulari wrote: > The immediate solution is for me to make sure the tarballs have built > before committing the updates. I already do this for x86_64 and I can > start doing it for aarch64 too. Well, this is easier said than done, currently. I was abl

Re: bug#48173: [PATCH] maint: Do not xz-compress ISO images.

2021-05-03 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hi Julien, Julien Lepiller skribis: >> --- a/doc/guix.texi >> +++ b/doc/guix.texi >> @@ -2099,7 +2099,7 @@ about their support in GNU/Linux. >> >> An ISO-9660 installation image that can be written to a USB stick or >> burnt to a DVD can be downloaded from >> -@indicateurl{@value{BASE-URL}/g

Re: [bug#48173] [PATCH] maint: Do not xz-compress ISO images.

2021-05-03 Thread François
On Mon, May 03, 2021 at 02:15:22AM +0200, Julien Lepiller wrote: > LGTM, but what should we do about the strings? sed -i 's/\.iso\.xz/.iso/g' po/doc/guix-manual.*.po and add that to the patch ? (notwithstanding some misunderstanding related to how translation works as I know nothing about that)

Re: Outreachy: Timeline tasks

2021-05-03 Thread Christopher Baines
Luciana Lima Brito writes: > On Sun, 02 May 2021 10:20:56 +0100 > Christopher Baines wrote: > >> I think what things are happening when is relevant, but that's more >> about understanding the hierarchy, rather than specific start and end >> times. > >> Basically, although using more colours (fr

Re: Outreachy: Timeline tasks

2021-05-03 Thread Luciana Lima Brito
On Sun, 02 May 2021 10:20:56 +0100 Christopher Baines wrote: > I think what things are happening when is relevant, but that's more > about understanding the hierarchy, rather than specific start and end > times. > Basically, although using more colours (from a gradient, like white to > red) woul

Re: Guix help page

2021-05-03 Thread Luis Felipe
Hi, On Monday, April 19, 2021 10:13 PM, Luis Felipe wrote: > On Monday, April 19, 2021 5:58 PM, Vincent Legoll vincent.leg...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > > I'll give it a shot > > > > Here is an (untested) attempt, is it any good ? > > Personally, I would add the development version of the manual

Re: How is the LaTeX-related file psfonts.map installed on Guix?

2021-05-03 Thread Ricardo Wurmus
Hi Rovanion there was a problem with the profile hook. It only did half of the work that “texlive-union” normally does. “texlive-union” is used for packages only, but some of the steps it performs should also have been done by the profile hook. Commit a6b8794c69446730b5f12eb8eefc5ef3b99c

Re: Bringing substitutes from the Guix Build Coordinator to users

2021-05-03 Thread Christopher Baines
Ludovic Courtès writes: > Thanks for your message! It’s great to see a summary of what’s been > cooking in the Coordinator and your vision around it. > > Christopher Baines skribis: > >> More specifically, while the architecture is similar to daemon >> offloading, there are some practical adva

Re: Criticisms of my "tone" (was Re: A "cosmetic changes" commit that removes security fixes)

2021-05-03 Thread Leo Prikler
Hi Mark, Am Montag, den 03.05.2021, 05:00 -0400 schrieb Mark H Weaver: > Leo Prikler writes: > > > Am Samstag, den 01.05.2021, 23:13 -0400 schrieb Mark H Weaver: > > > I don't think I fumbled on the facts at all. It's true that I > > > didn't > > > yet have _all_ of the relevant facts, but as f

Re: RISC-V is giving away developer boards

2021-05-03 Thread Ekaitz Zarraga
> Could interested developers raise their hands? :-) Me: raises hand

Re: How is the LaTeX-related file psfonts.map installed on Guix?

2021-05-03 Thread Andreas Enge
Hello, as a quick fix, you can install the (huge) texlive package, which in one place contains the full texlive distribution. Your document compiles with pdflatex then. Am Sun, May 02, 2021 at 05:03:18PM +0200 schrieb Rovanion Luckey: > \usepackage[colorlinks=true, linkcolor=blue, urlcolor=bl

Re: Criticisms of my "tone" (was Re: A "cosmetic changes" commit that removes security fixes)

2021-05-03 Thread Mark H Weaver
Hi Leo, I think we're mostly going in circles at this point, so I think we should finish up this conversation, as Ludovic suggested. I'll let you have the last word on most of our conversation threads, but I feel compelled to briefly counter one claim of yours: Leo Prikler writes: > Am Samstag

Re: Guix Home upstreaming plan

2021-05-03 Thread Andrew Tropin
Xinglu Chen wrote: > WDYT Andrew? As I said, a few months should be enough, but I hope we will accomplish it faster)

Re: Guix Home upstreaming plan

2021-05-03 Thread Andrew Tropin
Hi Ludovic, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > So, I have yet to go ahead and use it for myself to get a better feel. > In the meantime, I looked at > , and I like what I > see! It’s great that you already have clear documentation and that > everything

Re: A "cosmetic changes" commit that removes security fixes

2021-05-03 Thread Pierre Neidhardt
Hi Giovanni, > Guix is a GNU project and AFAIU GNU project management is well > documented: > > https://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-structure.html This applies to GNU at the top level, but it does not specify how sub-projects (referred to as "packages" in the aforementioned document) are governed locally

Re: A "cosmetic changes" commit that removes security fixes

2021-05-03 Thread Pierre Neidhardt
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