Re: Ensuring we don't break user systems

2018-07-30 Thread Dan Partelly
It all boils down to what you desire GuixSD to become. If you want it to be a hacker playground, than any model is good. If you want it to be a reliable OS used in production some day, then, frankly, you need live up to the reliability promise you have on the distro www page, even if this means

Re: Packaging a free Firefox

2018-07-30 Thread Pjotr Prins
On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 04:07:10PM -0400, Mark H Weaver wrote: > Pjotr Prins writes: > > > On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 06:14:24AM +0200, Pjotr Prins wrote: > >> When Icecat stops crashing it will be totally useful for most people > >> (95%). > > > > Now I am on fast internet I have far less crashes.

Re: Ensuring we don't break user systems

2018-07-30 Thread Nils Gillmann
Amirouche Boubekki transcribed 7.8K bytes: > Le lun. 30 juil. 2018 à 23:17, Nils Gillmann a écrit : > > > We just have 2 different views here. > > > > When Guix started, which was about 3 years before I joined, the model > > was okay. Between 2015 and now the amount of breakage has been > > extre

Re: Ensuring we don't break user systems

2018-07-30 Thread Amirouche Boubekki
Le lun. 30 juil. 2018 à 23:17, Nils Gillmann a écrit : > We just have 2 different views here. > > When Guix started, which was about 3 years before I joined, the model > was okay. Between 2015 and now the amount of breakage has been > extremely reduced due to discussions about more reasonable dev

Re: Ensuring we don't break user systems

2018-07-30 Thread Nils Gillmann
We just have 2 different views here. When Guix started, which was about 3 years before I joined, the model was okay. Between 2015 and now the amount of breakage has been extremely reduced due to discussions about more reasonable development models. For a while now we have an informal rfc for bigge

Re: Web interface pushed

2018-07-30 Thread Amirouche Boubekki
Le lun. 30 juil. 2018 à 18:03, Clément Lassieur a écrit : > Hartmut Goebel writes: > > > Am 30.07.2018 um 11:11 schrieb Clément Lassieur: > >> On https://cuirass.lassieur.org:8081/ for now, and on > >> https://berlin.guixsd.org/ when Ricardo guix pulls and guix > reconfigures > >> it :-) > > > >

Staging branch now live on Hydra!

2018-07-30 Thread Marius Bakke
Hello Guix! I've started an evaluation of the 'staging' branch on Hydra: https://hydra.gnu.org/jobset/gnu/staging Some highlights from this branch: * Pulseaudio 12. * Cython has been updated to the latest version. * IcedTea 8 is now the default JDK. * MariaDB has been upgraded to the latest 10.

Re: Web interface pushed

2018-07-30 Thread Clément Lassieur
Hartmut Goebel writes: > Am 30.07.2018 um 11:11 schrieb Clément Lassieur: >> On https://cuirass.lassieur.org:8081/ for now, and on >> https://berlin.guixsd.org/ when Ricardo guix pulls and guix reconfigures >> it :-) > > Wow, this is much, much quicker then the old UI. I'm just curious how I > co

Re: Web interface pushed

2018-07-30 Thread Hartmut Goebel
Am 30.07.2018 um 11:11 schrieb Clément Lassieur: > On https://cuirass.lassieur.org:8081/ for now, and on > https://berlin.guixsd.org/ when Ricardo guix pulls and guix reconfigures > it :-) Wow, this is much, much quicker then the old UI. I'm just curious how I could get the build log. Anything I m

Re: Web interface pushed

2018-07-30 Thread Ricardo Wurmus
Hi Pjotr, > One comment: I think we should strive to design GSoC programmes in a > way that students get to push earlier to trunk. I know Guix can be > complex, but even so, I think we would have less failure if we make it > small pieces and better gratification. This has always been our goal.

Re: Roadmap for Guix 1.0

2018-07-30 Thread Pierre Neidhardt
Also how far did we go with LVM support? -- Pierre Neidhardt signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Web interface pushed

2018-07-30 Thread Pjotr Prins
On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 01:46:10AM +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > Hello, > > Clément Lassieur skribis: > > > So, I did the pagination review and I pushed your work tonight. :-) > > \o/ Thumbs up to Tatiana for all the great work and to Clément for the > review and final polishing! Really co

Re: Web interface pushed

2018-07-30 Thread Gábor Boskovits
Ricardo Wurmus ezt írta (időpont: 2018. júl. 30., H, 14:09): > > Clément Lassieur writes: > > > Hi, > > > > amirou...@hypermove.net writes: > > > >> Hi > >> > >> How can I test? > > > > On https://cuirass.lassieur.org:8081/ for now, and on > > https://berlin.guixsd.org/ when Ricardo guix pulls

Re: Web interface pushed

2018-07-30 Thread Ricardo Wurmus
Clément Lassieur writes: > Hi, > > amirou...@hypermove.net writes: > >> Hi >> >> How can I test? > > On https://cuirass.lassieur.org:8081/ for now, and on > https://berlin.guixsd.org/ when Ricardo guix pulls and guix reconfigures > it :-) I just reconfigured berlin.guixsd.org. The web interf

Re: Ensuring we don't break user systems

2018-07-30 Thread Hartmut Goebel
Julien Lepiller skribis: >> We wouldcreate a new branch, stable, that would be used by guix pull. We >> would continue to push to master or other branches. +1 -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compile

Re: Web interface pushed

2018-07-30 Thread Nils Gillmann
Wow, good work Tatiana! Alex Sassmannshausen transcribed 384 bytes: > Wow, that looks beautiful! Congratulations to all involved, and > especially Tatiana :D > > Alex > > > Clément Lassieur writes: > > > Hi, > > > > amirou...@hypermove.net writes: > > > >> Hi > >> > >> How can I test? > > > >

Re: Web interface pushed

2018-07-30 Thread Alex Sassmannshausen
Wow, that looks beautiful! Congratulations to all involved, and especially Tatiana :D Alex Clément Lassieur writes: > Hi, > > amirou...@hypermove.net writes: > >> Hi >> >> How can I test? > > On https://cuirass.lassieur.org:8081/ for now, and on > https://berlin.guixsd.org/ when Ricardo guix p

Re: Web interface pushed

2018-07-30 Thread Clément Lassieur
Hi, amirou...@hypermove.net writes: > Hi > > How can I test? On https://cuirass.lassieur.org:8081/ for now, and on https://berlin.guixsd.org/ when Ricardo guix pulls and guix reconfigures it :-) Clément

Re: Roadmap for Guix 1.0

2018-07-30 Thread Nils Gillmann
Pjotr Prins transcribed 2.9K bytes: > On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 05:18:21PM +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > > #+TITLE: Roadmap for Guix 1.0, 2018 > > #+STARTUP: hidestars > > > > * 'guix pull' & co. > > ** TODO 'guix pull' honors ~/.config/guix/channels.scm > > *** (guix channels) module provides eas

Re: Web interface pushed

2018-07-30 Thread amirouche
Hi On Monday, July 30, 2018 00:08 CEST, Clément Lassieur wrote:  Hi Tatiana, So, I did the pagination review and I pushed your work tonight. :-) I added checks to avoid crashes when the table is empty (FIRST and LAST expect non-empty lists). I modified a few minor things too: - the commit me

Re: Cuirass web writeup

2018-07-30 Thread Gábor Boskovits
Gábor Boskovits ezt írta (időpont: 2018. júl. 30., H, 8:04): > Clément Lassieur ezt írta (időpont: 2018. júl. > 30., H, 1:29): > >> Gábor Boskovits writes: >> >> > I did not want to send this on the mailing list, as evaluations are not >> > public yet. I've collected important communication reg

Re: Roadmap for Guix 1.0

2018-07-30 Thread Pierre Neidhardt
> Sentimental Versioning Didn't know about this, interesting take... :) My two cents because I'm not sure it fits the list: - `man' is broken. https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-guix/2018-05/msg00084.html It seems trivial but I don't think we should put a 1.0 stamp on an OS that can