Hello,
I've been trying to build the current master, and it fails when I get to
(cps utils). i.e. " BOOTSTRAP GUILEC language/cps/utils.go". It may be my
own issue, as I'm ignorant of the changes to the bootstrap process, so I
figure here is better than bug-guile (for now). If it matters I'm on x6
ww.gnu.org/software/mit-scheme/documentation/mit-scheme-ref/Weight_002dBalanced-Trees.html
I have those in pfds under the name bbtrees (for balanced binary
trees). They are pretty flexible, and you get reasonable times for a lot
of operations, but like a lot of tree structures not particularly c
t if we want it a specific
> error message could be achieved with `syntax-case', or a `syntax-error'
> macro (used in an "else" clause of `syntax-rules').
Pattern match errors are completely useless, really.
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> Anyway can I suggest a Bug report where we
Then add it to the tracker :)
0. syntax-rules is fine, modulo al petrofsky/oleg style craziness
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n 'first' or 'last', it would be better to use 'leftmost' and
'rightmost'
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to be hygienic, that's pretty easy, but I'm not sure
what you can do about this in general. It's not like you can pass in the
gensymed name, because that will break the way people who for some
reason still right defmacros expect them to work.
Dunno, maybe I'm just missing some insight here.
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ually pass.
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g the behaviour of object
properties when an object doesn't have a particular property)
0. For docstrings on general objects, we have object-documentation in
(ice-9 documentation) too, but that's a separate module, so I'm not
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more like (untested)
(when (and length (not (zero? length)))
(error "content-length, but no body"))
(when (assq 'transfer-encoding (request-headers request))
(error "transfer-encoding not allowed with no body"))
(values request #vu8)
That said, why do we forbid transfer en
le
after some time apart :)
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>From 6cd6cbc1e77f159dcfabb2738877fc0022d8933c Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Ian Price
D
t's a good reason not to add it.
(As an aside, exposing the mmap'ed memory as a bytevector was my first
instinct, but I worry about this complicating matters if we ever wanted
to change gc)
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> Even GOOPS, Guile$B!G(Bs object oriented layer, which derives from CLOS
> (Common Lisp$B!G(Bs), uses the first style.
As does Racket's class library through the 'send' form.
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Ian Price writes:
> The current issues with lua vs master are as follows
> 1) has been renamed to on master
> 2) has been replaced with which is not quite a drop-in
> 3) while was being compiled into something with improper scoping.
>
> I have fixes for these locally.
hin or imported into the library. That
is, it may insert a reference to that identifier into the output code it
produces."
"All implicitly exported variables are also immutable in both the
exporting and importing libraries. It is thus a syntax violation if a
variable appears on the left-hand
Nala Ginrut writes:
> Ah~very nice~
> So many cool things should be documented...
Yeah, I've been meaning to do this. I'll try and get a patch for later
today/tomorrow.
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Ian Price writes:
> I don't know much about Lua, but I think I could do the following.
> 1. Fix the lua-lexer failure.
> 2. Disable or fix[1] the variable-arguments functionality.
> 3. Rebase or merge with modern stable or master
> 4. Fix the errors that arise as a resu
> So, what do you think?
This is the sort of thing that belongs in a .guile rather than in
guile IMO.
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rs (yes, the naturals are
recursive, but many of the algorithms, like fast-exponentiation, rely on
recursion other than on the predecessor).
0. http://srfi.schemers.org/srfi-41/srfi-41.html
1. http://www.cs.hmc.edu/~oneill/papers/Sieve-JFP.pdf
2. https://github.com/ijp/ijputils/blob/master/streams.sls#L
(begin
> (if (not (= (* 2 i) (analyze i)))
> (format #t "~a != (analyze ~a) == ~a~%" (* 2 i) (* 2 i)
> (analyze (* 2i
btw, Typo here ^^
> (lp (+ i 1)
>
Maybe I'll meditate on this more, and post a "schemier" version.
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Attached is a patch to remove the duplicated definitions.
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>From ffbe4cf3c151d5d5affd5baecf7b4cf65b22ce50 Mon Se
Okay, apparently Ludovic already mailed the list about this, but I
didn't see it due to a stale gnus.
Ah well. Such is life.
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t; (define %future-prompt
>;; The prompt futures abort to when they want to wait for another
>;; future.
This isn't the only definition of let/ec in the Guile source code. I see
definitions in module/language/tree-il/peval.scm and
module/sxml/match.scm (as an aside, I notice match.scm makes the prompt
reuse mistake you almost did)
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Mark H Weaver writes:
> Frankly, I think it should simply be removed. It is mostly redundant
> with Chapter 7 (Guile Modules). If it's to be kept, it should be
> brought up to date, and should be kept up to date going forward.
+1 for removal.
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s
interpretation (format). :)
0. http://synthcode.com/scheme/fmt
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having TCP
be the default. Hm.
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ocedure} spawn-server [server-socket]
>> +@code{run-server} creates and runs a repl, making it available over
>
> Rather $B!H(BCreate and run a REPL$B!I(B ($B!H(BREPL$B!I(B always
> uppercase).
Fixed.
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Ian Price writes:
> I don't know much about Lua, but I think I could do the following.
> 1. Fix the lua-lexer failure.
> 2. Disable or fix[1] the variable-arguments functionality.
> 3. Rebase or merge with modern stable or master
> 4. Fix the errors that arise as a result o
for the enclosing function's '...'. Right now, there is no way to
get that information.
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to
placing the expression directly in the prototype.
Rough patch is attached.
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>From d3efaf09c4b57e3055afb503a6c0fd5c7a115ec
they have others as well.
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meaning Guiler posts an announcement to here, or
guile-user. We don't vet them, and we've certainly had bad APIs posted
here before .
I'm an optimist though: if we can find them, we can fix them, and it
seems to work okay in other languages.
0. http://elpa.gnu.org/
1. http://m
ith guildhall, along
with some known interface bugs, the srfi package issues, and support for
C etc. A full post will be made later in the week.(promise :)
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I'll try and get a mail out later this week about the current state of
affairs with guildhall.
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gt; effectively
> represent those ideoms. Any thoughts on it?
At one point I implemented tagbody for a laugh using call/cc. I've
attached the code, but it's kinda lame. I was much less experienced with
continuations and macros then, and I could certainly write it better now.
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>> properties
>> on symbols, e,g. currently a symbol slot is a variable, but to
>> effectively support CL I would go for
>> /Stefan
I don't think we should get ahead of ourselves, but emacs has had some
minor CL emulation in things like cl.el and cl-lib. I think thes
appeared in the lists a few
> times.
(os process) might be reasonable, since we are forever complaining about
the popen module, but I don't see why we need (ansi term-color).
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e, adds values and returns a new
> hashtable. I know, I prefer pure functional implementations...
You could look up vhashes in the manual. Alternatively, if your data
has an ordering you can use (pfds bbtrees) from my pfds collection[0]
0. https://github.com/ijp/pfds or guild install pf
Whoops, in my haste, I forgot to note that this _is_ a bug in guile's
documentation, not in the implementation. Suggested fix included.
Ludovic, Andy:
Should I add him to THANKS too?
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x27;t say anything about the behaviour of hashtable-set! and
hashtable-update! on immutable hashtables, this would be allowed.
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Okay, pushed to stable-2.0
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rent languages, a command-line
> argument or argv[0] switch make a lot of sense.
I've had quite a few votes for argv[0] so that's probably what it's
going to be. --lang might be worth adding as an option under the "guile"
name (or --from to match "guild compile"
Ian Price writes:
> First, I'm going to try and write a proof-of-concept guile-elisp
> executable. This shouldn't be too hard, I think, and may shed some light
> on expected difficulties.
I was distracted by the pfds release so it's taken me longer than it
should h
rest ...) ))
>
> What do you think?
Yes, that would be much better. It's startling how often I forget I can
syntax-case this way.
Changed, okay for me to push?
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y seems
> worth changing, in my opinion.
Well, r7rs also has their own library naming convention, but, the main
change is that string-for-each should take multiple strings, not a
string and some indices as srfi 13 does
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2012-11/msg00011.html
1. http://srfi.schemers.org/srfi-97/srfi-97.html
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>From 5f06983d26ccbd7410891730664aa83bef79e763
to affect the C code
for guile. It _might_ be possible to do this all in Scheme, but until
I've tried, I'm going to remain sceptical.
If you have a better suggestion please tell me :)
0. as we all know, "in computer science, every problem can be solved
with an additional layer o
ce since now the calling module needs to
know the language of the module it's requiring.
0. https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guile-devel/2012-07/msg00067.html
1. https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guile-devel/2012-07/msg00068.html
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solution is going to work out on its own.
I'll take some time to finish this list up and post it later today
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rg/gmane.lisp.guile.devel/12291
The first issues would be them. There appears to be a notes.org in the
modules/language/lua directory, so compare with that, but I expect the
roadmap covered that. Then it would be a matter of working through the
lua manual, and seeing what else is missing.
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anyone who likes lua, and would be willing to hack on it, please suggest
it to them. It'd be a shame to see that code go to waste.
Wingo, Ludovic
I hope this isn't too forward of me.
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The patch looks fine to me (it had better be, since it is already pushed
:P), however I wonder if it wouldn't be prudent to look to moving
define-record-type into guile proper, and making (use-modules (srfi
srfi-9)) effectively a no-op.
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n the appropriate package. But as
it stands, the provides are somewhat orthogonal to how the code gets
installed.
Andreas,
Guildhall is a friendly fork of Dorodango, so what do you think about
adding this sort of thing?
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R7RS will probably want its own incompatible convention anyway...
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nalaginrut writes:
> hey guys! Should we consider add our specified name, like: .gl or
> just .guile?
Please don't
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two.
1. http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guile-devel/2012-02/msg00038.html
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;list, with the
obvious simple implementations
(define (q->list q)
(car q))
(define (list->q l)
(if (null? l)
(make-q)
(cons l (last-pair l
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rk on sdl bindings is either
coordinated with ttn, with a view to be included in the existing
guile-sdl, or if it were at the very least compatible.
0. It used to be necessary to make a small tweak, I forget if this is
still the case.
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ts, have it output relevant variables, and
check the output. Hmm. This seems like it would be problematic with
--listen though, since we'd need to run two instances, and make some
visible changes to the instance. Maybe I just haven't thought it through
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fix a typo.
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>From a764dcb9735c2478392006287a97dd07541e55ee Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
F
Ian Price writes:
> anyway. Anyway if vectors are immutable, as I believe they are, it
I, of course, meant vector literals, but a quick test shows this is not
the case.
(define v #(1 2 3))
(pk v)
(vector-set! v 0 #f)
(pk v)
~ $ guile -s /tmp/test.scm
;;; (#(1 2 3))
;;; (#(#f 2 3))
harm to make them eq?
If you want distinctness and mutability, you can always call the vector
constructor.
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1. Well, -Q in emacs is really "-q --no-site-file --no-splash" but who's
keeping track? ;-)
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d-right, string-unfold, string-fold-right, string-fold and
hash-fold _are_ in the base, and this is supposed to be list processing
language.
1. http://mumble.net/~campbell/scheme/shuffle.scm
2. http://okmij.org/ftp/Haskell/perfect-shuffle.txt
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Hence no problems.
>
> Yes, of course.
IIRC, equal? in r6rs is supposed to terminate also. If someone
implements it, please backport it to the (rnrs base) module.
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oids many important portability
questions. But we all can dream...
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Ian Price writes:
> Now, as I see it we have a few options available here.
>
> 1. Patch guile to also look up srfis using the above convention.
> 2. Absorb (set-difference portable-srfis guiles-srfis) into guile proper
> 3. I change the srfi package hosted on my repo to one th
or expository purposes
1. guildhall seems to make some sort of a distinction between "programs"
and "executables", but I'm not sure what the reasoning is for this.
2. executables would go in ~/.local/share/guildhall/2.0/$name/bin
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pload facility is
ongoing, but if you want a library packaged/included shoot me a mail
(pure scheme only at the moment, hopefully scheme & c / elisp /
ecmascript / brainfuck soon)
0. https://github.com/ijp/guildhall/
1. Installation instructions -- https://gist.github.com/3327296
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racket, and arcfide was working on adding this to chez.
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the copyright info is correct.
Anyway, if there are no objections to the content, I will upload the
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thread, you can email
me links if you want me to package them, and you can check out the
guildhall documentation for the pkg-list.scm format if you want to give
it a try yourself.
There is no interface for user submissions at the moment, but I am
looking into that. Hopefully, there will be
Ian Price writes:
> Just an FYI, it still isn't up. :-P I know nalaginrut already offered,
> but if you can tell me where to find the available.scm format I can look
> into hosting this temporarily myself.
Oh I see, it is just a list of package forms (as in pkg-list.scm), but
w
nicer compilation. I would like this to change. I
don't know if I will be able to change its fortunes, but I would
appreciate help in testing it. In particular, if you have pure scheme
libraries that you would like included, I would be much obliged if you
would email me links to them. (p
[0]. I don't personally like this solution, since it seems fragile, and
it's not clear how it would interact with the -x switch.
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My thanks to Ludovic, Andy, and all other contributors for their help in
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t it may need a rebase first.
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Thien-Thi Nguyen writes:
> () Ian Price
> () Sun, 06 May 2012 05:52:00 +0100
>
>I think we can leave trailers until I have some actual data on
>how much these are actually used in practice, and/or someone
>complains about it being missing. WDYT?
>
> It&
Hello guilers,
Here is a more complete patch. I've also attached a patch to export
declare-opaque-header!, which I've occasionally found to be useful.
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in general are welcome
I'd just like to make a note that, instead of modifying the client, I
modified read-response-body directly. This feels like probably the right
thing to do.
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ccing Daniel Hartwig, since he has been a bigger cheerleader for chunked
encoding than I have so far :).
Andy Wingo writes:
> On_Thu 29 Sep 2011 16:09, Ian Price writes:
>
>> If you've used the (web ...) modules, you may have noticed that guile
>> does not currently s
licated way of "consing" a
onto the list a. So why not just do #`(#,#'a . #,#'a) ?
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object? bv)
(incomplete-response ...))
((= (bytevector-length bv) nbytes) bv)
(else
(incomplete-response ...
Am I the only one who feels strongly about this?
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> guardian is simply a finalizer, implemented in a roundabout way.
>
> Food for thought!
I could have told you that. I already implement an add-finalizer! in
roundabout way using guardians :P
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> For example, reusing the same bytevector and looping over
> read-response-body! saving the results to disk each time. This limits
> the memory use to the size of the bytevector *and* removes the copy
> operation from your implementation (bonus!).
If you wanted to do it that way, i
c protocol layered over
another more appropriate protocol is just ugly. As I already mentioned,
exceptions have tags, and this is what these are for.
Fundamentally, I think this patch could be simplified to checking for an
eof from get-bytevector-n and changing the bad-response to an
"incomplete-response" that provides the bytevector.
What does everyone else think?
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at the top of the file and should not be affected by this
change.", that's ages ago though -- "Changes since Guile 1.3.2:". Looks
to me like a case of "it's that way, because it's always been that way"
Just my £0.02.
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return using GOOPS. This is motivating my experiments with
higher order modules.
> * Improve error messages and debugging
Always welcome.
Thanks for sharing.
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MO reduces confusion. I already try to
do this when posting any examples on paste.lisp.org or in a gist.
Other people may feel differently, as it is relatively easy to search
the manual for missing procedures and, as cky put it, "I don't believe
in copypasta coding".
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g, and this patch
> _does_ fix his problem. I pushed it to stable-2.0. Thanks again to
> David for reporting the problem and helping me track it down! :)
Cool, I've been having this issue somewhat intermittently, and it's good
to see a fix. I'll keep my eyes peeled for any re
Andy Wingo writes:
> Also, it seems pedantic to repeat the keyword arguments (once as
> keyword, once as identifier). Surely #:foo=bar is unambiguous?
Since guile use the same name for both the keyword and identifier, I'd
say so.
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Ian Price
"Programming is like pinball
if you already installed 2.0.4.
> We apologize for the inconvenience.
Mozilla, eat your heart out.
:)
--
Ian Price
"Programming is like pinball. The reward for doing it well is
the opportunity to do it again" - from "The Wizardy Compiled"
Andy Wingo writes:
> On Sat 07 Jan 2012 18:37, Ian Price writes:
>
>> slight mistake in the last one, So I've sent another patch
>
> Sorry for being an idiot, but I'm not able to download this one. Can
> you send it again as a plaintext attachment?
I thought I ha
cts, while all objects created by the other procedures
listed in this report are mutable."
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Ian Price
"Programming is like pinball. The reward for doing it well is
the opportunity to do it again" - from "The Wizardy Compiled"
slight mistake in the last one, So I've sent another patch
<<< message/external-body; name*=us-ascii''~%2fsrc%2fguile%2f0001-document-syntax-parameters.patch; access-type=local-file: Unrecognized >>>
need to know very
> much in the way of formatting; just follow the examples there and you'll
> be good.
Yes, dsmith and ludovic assured me as much on IRC :)
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Ian Price
"Programming is like pinball. The reward for doing it well is
the opportunity to do it again"
provide an arbitrary semantics for
no-argument version. If you do that, then you aren't simplifying at
all, but merely trading one set of complications for another.
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Ian Price
"Programming is like pinball. The reward for doing it well is
the opportunity to do it again" - from "The Wizardy Compiled"
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