Project rename to "GTK"

2019-02-06 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via gtk-devel-list
Hi all; tl;dr: GTK is GTK, not GTK+. The documentation has been updated, and the pkg-config file for the future 4.0 major release is now called "gtk4" over the years, we had discussions about removing the "+" from the project name. The "plus" was added to "GTK" once it was moved out of the GIMP s

Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-06 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via gtk-devel-list
[Cross-posted to various relevant mailing lists; please, reply to gtk-devel-list] As part of an attempt at making GTK more friendly to newcomers, I and other core developers were thinking of moving the mailing lists from the current mailman installation to Discourse: https://discourse.org/ Pos

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-06 Thread Reuben Rissler
To introduce myself, I only am using Gtk for 3 years, but really like the infrastructure / people / open source surrounding Gtk. I am sometimes seen as 'theGtknerd'. On 02/06/2019 06:46 AM, Emmanuele Bassi via gtk-devel-list wrote: The GTK project would have various sub-topics, mostly arou

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-06 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via gtk-devel-list
Hi; On Wed, 6 Feb 2019 at 13:10, Reuben Rissler wrote: > > To introduce myself, I only am using Gtk for 3 years, but really like > the infrastructure / people / open source surrounding Gtk. I am > sometimes seen as 'theGtknerd'. > > > On 02/06/2019 06:46 AM, Emmanuele Bassi via gtk-devel-list wr

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-06 Thread Charles Lindsey
On 06/02/2019 11:46, Emmanuele Bassi via gtk-devel-list wrote: [Cross-posted to various relevant mailing lists; please, reply to gtk-devel-list] As part of an attempt at making GTK more friendly to newcomers, I and other core developers were thinking of moving the mailing lists from the curre

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-06 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via gtk-devel-list
On Wed, 6 Feb 2019 at 15:11, Charles Lindsey wrote: > > > On 06/02/2019 11:46, Emmanuele Bassi via gtk-devel-list wrote: > > [Cross-posted to various relevant mailing lists; please, reply to > > gtk-devel-list] > > > > As part of an attempt at making GTK more friendly to newcomers, I and > other

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-06 Thread Paul Davis
Emmaneule, at ardour.org, we recently switched from using Drupal forums to Discourse. The results have been delightful. We managed to get single sign on integration with our existing site working, which was important for us, but probably not so much for a GTK Discourse. More notably, once you figu

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-06 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via gtk-devel-list
More information on Discourse: - About: https://www.discourse.org/about - Features: https://www.discourse.org/features Discourse is a forum software that has multiple ways to access it: web, native apps, and email. It's not a mailing list software with a web frontend. The interesting (to me)

Re: Project rename to "GTK"

2019-02-06 Thread Owen Taylor via gtk-devel-list
On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 5:04 AM Emmanuele Bassi via gtk-devel-list wrote: > > Hi all; > > tl;dr: GTK is GTK, not GTK+. The documentation has been updated, and the > pkg-config file for the future 4.0 major release is now called "gtk4" > > over the years, we had discussions about removing the "+" f

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-06 Thread Niels De Graef via gtk-devel-list
Hi all, I'm very much in favor! Being able to still use e-mail while also having a convenient and pretty-looking interface is something I look *really* forward to. My only question is: what happens to the old archives? Do we keep them online as-is, or is there a plan to also migrate them? The for

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-06 Thread Ryan Gonzalez via gtk-devel-list
As a side note, Python has also opened a Discourse instance (in addition to their Zulip experiment), and the results have pretty much been positive. I've also been on Fedora's for quite some time, and it's great. On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 5:46 AM Emmanuele Bassi via gtk-devel-list < gtk-devel-list@gn

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-06 Thread sri
On Wed, 2019-02-06 at 12:46 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi via gtk-devel-list wrote: > [Cross-posted to various relevant mailing lists; please, reply to > gtk-devel-list] > > As part of an attempt at making GTK more friendly to newcomers, I and > other core developers were thinking of moving the mailing l

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-06 Thread makepost
We already looked at Hyperkitty, and found it fairly limited in functionality. Avoiding Hyperkitty is what led us to Discourse in the first place. Can you link that discussion please? I'm interested what newcomers want to do such that Hyperkitty doesn't let. Negatives of Discourse: loads slower,

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-06 Thread Ryan Gonzalez via gtk-devel-list
I know someone who set up HyperKitty, it was a nightmare and still is a nightmare. -- Ryan (ライアン) Yoko Shimomura, ryo (supercell/EGOIST), Hiroyuki Sawano >> everyone else https://refi64.com/ On Wed, Feb 6, 2019, 6:54 PM wrote: > > We already looked at Hyperkitty, and found it fairly limited in

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-06 Thread makepost
I know someone who set up HyperKitty, it was a nightmare How so? Can you link their blog post? I'm not its user or developer, I want to better understand the software choice. ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-06 Thread Michael Gratton
On Wed, 6 Feb, 2019 at 10:46 PM, Emmanuele Bassi via gtk-list wrote: As part of an attempt at making GTK more friendly to newcomers, I and other core developers were thinking of moving the mailing lists from the current mailman installation to Discourse: Possibly s

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-06 Thread Ryan Gonzalez via gtk-devel-list
Hmm, unfortunately it was over some scattered IRC messages, I can try and find them in the logs if you like. -- Ryan (ライアン) Yoko Shimomura, ryo (supercell/EGOIST), Hiroyuki Sawano >> everyone else https://refi64.com/ On Wed, Feb 6, 2019, 8:38 PM wrote: > > I know someone who set up HyperKitty,

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-06 Thread Felix Miata via gtk-devel-list
makep...@firemail.cc composed on 2019-02-07 02:54 (UTC+0200): >> We already looked at Hyperkitty, and found it fairly limited in >> functionality. Avoiding Hyperkitty is what led us to Discourse in the >> first place. > Can you link that discussion please? I'm interested what newcomers want > to

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-06 Thread Felix Miata via gtk-devel-list
Emmanuele Bassi via gtk-devel-list composed on 2019-02-06 12:46 (UTC+0100): > Are there any objections? Did somebody already try out Discourse and has > opinions about it that they want to share with the community? As happened when various mozilla dev mailing lists moved to discourse, I ceased h

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-06 Thread Ryan Gonzalez via gtk-devel-list
As has been mentioned, Discourse allows you to receive and via email, you would largely only use the web UI to sign up or change your settings. -- Ryan (ライアン) Yoko Shimomura, ryo (supercell/EGOIST), Hiroyuki Sawano >> everyone else https://refi64.com/ On Wed, Feb 6, 2019, 11:25 PM Felix Miata via

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-06 Thread makepost
> hiding things that previously were obvious and made inaccessible without > scripting overhead > enabled, overabundant whitespace, tiny gray text, short lists where 5X as > many would otherwise fit. All these points that you make apply to Discourse. Its client side seems entirely JS and does

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-06 Thread makepost
> you would largely only use the web UI to sign up or change your settings. What about reading the history? I mostly end up on mailing lists web UI by following links from web searches and bug trackers. ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@g