Re: Theming API hackfest: last call

2008-10-16 Thread Stefan Kost
hi, Robert Staudinger schrieb: > ... > > Finally, regarding the SVG theming efforts that are floating around > [2, 3], I think that CSS and SVG are mostly orthogonal rather than > competing with each other. SVG is great for graphics, and CSS is made > for things like expressing that the GtkButton

Re: Theming API hackfest: last call

2008-10-15 Thread Robert Staudinger
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Behdad Esfahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > I still don't buy that. What you want is to make sure GtkPlug style override > that of GTKWindow. And that already happens I assume. *Any* use of > ".GtkWindow {...}" is wrong, because I may do this in my pygtk

Re: Theming API hackfest: last call

2008-10-15 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
Robert Staudinger wrote: > On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Christian Dywan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [...] > >> Sounds like it would make subclassing kind of hard, if I understand you >> right. For instance people like to subclass to create all sorts of >> buttons and it is only intuitive

Re: Theming API hackfest: last call

2008-10-15 Thread Brian J. Tarricone
On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:48:47 +0200 Robert Staudinger wrote: > Relatedly I am thinking of a sane way to import styling into CSS > blocks to aid widget mimicking. Imagine you want to mimick a GtkButton > with your own wonderful implementation "FooButton", but unrelated in > the GType hierarchy (not

Re: Theming API hackfest: last call

2008-10-15 Thread Robert Staudinger
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Christian Dywan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > thanks for the explanation. I see the idea and I agree, automatic > inheritance doesn't always make sense. However as seem to suggest to > add explicit rules to the theme's gtkrc. I think if we are taking this > r

Re: Theming API hackfest: last call

2008-10-15 Thread Christian Dywan
Am Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:48:47 +0200 schrieb "Robert Staudinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Christian Dywan > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [...] > > > Sounds like it would make subclassing kind of hard, if I understand > > you right. For instance people like to subc

Re: Theming API hackfest: last call

2008-10-15 Thread Robert Staudinger
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Christian Dywan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Sounds like it would make subclassing kind of hard, if I understand you > right. For instance people like to subclass to create all sorts of > buttons and it is only intuitive that they all look similar. What wou

Re: Theming API hackfest: last call

2008-10-15 Thread Christian Dywan
Am Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:30:38 +0200 schrieb "Robert Staudinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 11:44 PM, Behdad Esfahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > [...] > > > Shouldn't the class-specific ones use the css class modifier? That > > is, ".GtkButton"? > > Per libccss default,

Re: Theming API hackfest: last call

2008-10-15 Thread Robert Staudinger
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 3:44 AM, Behdad Esfahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Christian Dywan wrote: [...] > Right. If we can assign names to widgets (does the a11y layer do something > like that?) then the names can be accessed using the "#column-header" syntax. That is IMO the correct way, an

Re: Theming API hackfest: last call

2008-10-15 Thread Robert Staudinger
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 11:44 PM, Behdad Esfahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Shouldn't the class-specific ones use the css class modifier? That is, > ".GtkButton"? The intersection of terminologies is a bit confusing, but it's really "div", "p", "span" etc. in HTML and "GtkWindow", "Gt

Re: Theming API hackfest: last call

2008-10-14 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
Christian Dywan wrote: >> Another relevant idea is that sophisticated CSS matching rules may >> help theming complex widgets without requiring them to expose their >> internal structure. For example, ".GTKTreeView>.GTKButton" will >> match a GTKButton that has a GTKTreeView parent. > > The way I

Re: Theming API hackfest: last call

2008-10-14 Thread Christian Dywan
Am Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:44:06 -0400 schrieb Behdad Esfahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Robert Staudinger wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 3:36 AM, Behdad Esfahbod > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > [...] > > > >> Hi Rob, > >> > >> I got to know about work you are doing by crossing over your fd.

Re: Theming API hackfest: last call

2008-10-14 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
Robert Staudinger wrote: > On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 3:36 AM, Behdad Esfahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [...] > >> Hi Rob, >> >> I got to know about work you are doing by crossing over your fd.o account >> request. I thought to myself: "wow, this is so cool... why didn't I hear >> about this

Re: Theming API hackfest: last call

2008-10-13 Thread Robert Staudinger
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Christian Dywan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > I would think, the fact that you are actually trying to preseve > oddities like the GtkTreeView/ GtkButton relation, leaves a bit of a > bad aftertaste. I like the CSS idea, because the most of the syntax is > pre

Re: Theming API hackfest: last call

2008-10-13 Thread Christian Dywan
Am Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:55:08 +0200 schrieb "Robert Staudinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 3:36 AM, Behdad Esfahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > [...] > > > Hi Rob, > > > > I got to know about work you are doing by crossing over your fd.o > > account request. I thought to

Re: Theming API hackfest: last call

2008-10-13 Thread Robert Staudinger
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 3:36 AM, Behdad Esfahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Hi Rob, > > I got to know about work you are doing by crossing over your fd.o account > request. I thought to myself: "wow, this is so cool... why didn't I hear > about this stuff before?" I think a good number

Re: Theming API hackfest: last call

2008-10-09 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
Robert Staudinger wrote: > On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Robert Staudinger > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [...] > >> thanks for pushing this, Alberto. >> I'd like to attend and request sponsorship (being a student). Is there >> any more formal kind of application required? > > For the recor

Re: Theming API hackfest: last call

2008-10-09 Thread Alberto Ruiz
2008/10/9 Robert Staudinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Robert Staudinger > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [...] > >> thanks for pushing this, Alberto. >> I'd like to attend and request sponsorship (being a student). Is there >> any more formal kind of application requir

Re: Theming API hackfest: last call

2008-10-09 Thread Robert Staudinger
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Robert Staudinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > thanks for pushing this, Alberto. > I'd like to attend and request sponsorship (being a student). Is there > any more formal kind of application required? For the record, I am withdrawing this request. Alberto

Re: Theming API hackfest: last call

2008-10-07 Thread Robert Staudinger
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 6:56 PM, Alberto Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi there, > > we have set the proposed date for the theming API hackfest to the > third week of februrary, this is: > 16th-22nd > > It'll take place in Dublin, Ireland, hosted by Sun Microsystems at > their headquarters. > >