Re: Steps to get to GTK+ 3.0

2008-06-05 Thread Stefan Kost
hi, Brian J. Tarricone schrieb: > Jean-Yves Lefort wrote: >> On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 15:18:45 -0400 >> Paul Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 2008-06-04 at 20:57 +0200, Jean-Yves Lefort wrote: >>> Rather than calling my suggestions silly, why don't you actually try to explain ho

Re: Steps to get to GTK+ 3.0

2008-06-05 Thread Jean-Yves Lefort
On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 14:21:10 -0400 Behdad Esfahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't appreciate your language, and others don't either. See: > > http://live.gnome.org/CodeOfConduct > > If you can't discuss decently and on a technical ground without offering > unsolicited personal advice, y

Re: Steps to get to GTK+ 3.0

2008-06-05 Thread Yevgen Muntyan
On Jun 5, 2008, at 14:44 , Johan Dahlin wrote: > Yevgen Muntyan wrote: > [..] >> Say, this Gtk-3.0 idea sucks. It brings nothing to application >> developers, yet application developers will be effectively forced >> to migrate to avoid problems. You are doing a disservice to >> application develo

Re: Steps to get to GTK+ 3.0

2008-06-05 Thread Mikael Hermansson
On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 14:35 -0500, Yevgen Muntyan wrote: > Say, this Gtk-3.0 idea sucks. It brings nothing to application > developers, yet application developers will be effectively forced > to migrate to avoid problems. You are doing a disservice to > application developers with this. It's a road

Re: Steps to get to GTK+ 3.0

2008-06-05 Thread Emmanuele Bassi
On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 14:35 -0500, Yevgen Muntyan wrote: > I do not say you should violate the code > of conduct or whatever. It's nice if everybody is nice and fluffy, > yes. But there are also people who are pissed off (that happens), > or tired, they should not write to gtk-devel-list, then,

Re: Steps to get to GTK+ 3.0

2008-06-05 Thread Johan Dahlin
Yevgen Muntyan wrote: [..] > Say, this Gtk-3.0 idea sucks. It brings nothing to application > developers, yet application developers will be effectively forced > to migrate to avoid problems. You are doing a disservice to > application developers with this. It's a road to 4.0? Give me > a break, ca

Re: Steps to get to GTK+ 3.0

2008-06-05 Thread Yevgen Muntyan
On Jun 5, 2008, at 14:02 , Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 13:43 -0500, Yevgen Muntyan wrote: >> On Jun 5, 2008, at 13:21 , Behdad Esfahbod wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 08:59 +0200, Jean-Yves Lefort wrote: >> >> [snip] >> I hope you'll pardon me the following paternalist

Re: Steps to get to GTK+ 3.0

2008-06-05 Thread Mikael Hermansson
On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 10:59 +0200, Xavier Bestel wrote: > > class QFoo : public QObject > > { > >Q_OBJECT > > > >Q_PROPERTY(int bar READ bar WRITE setBar) > [...] > > > > Which way do you prefer? > > The Vala way ? > In a way we being a bit offtopic but I agree fully wi

Re: Steps to get to GTK+ 3.0

2008-06-05 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 13:43 -0500, Yevgen Muntyan wrote: > On Jun 5, 2008, at 13:21 , Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > > > On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 08:59 +0200, Jean-Yves Lefort wrote: > > [snip] > > >> I hope you'll pardon me the following paternalistic advice, but I > >> believe that it would be good for

Re: Steps to get to GTK+ 3.0

2008-06-05 Thread Yevgen Muntyan
On Jun 5, 2008, at 13:21 , Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 08:59 +0200, Jean-Yves Lefort wrote: [snip] >> I hope you'll pardon me the following paternalistic advice, but I >> believe that it would be good for you to cut down on some of the >> zealotry when defending a pet project.

Re: Steps to get to GTK+ 3.0

2008-06-05 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 08:59 +0200, Jean-Yves Lefort wrote: > > Sure, both systems need some reflection capabilities, which neither C > nor C++ support natively. I don't see how this point would debunk the > fact that C++ is a more expressive language than C, and that writing > an object-oriented a

Re: Qt vs. Gtk+ holy war Was: Steps to get to GTK+ 3.0

2008-06-05 Thread Ross Burton
On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 16:16 +0200, Christian Dywan wrote: > What about Genie even? > > [indent=4] > uses > Glib > > class Foo : Object > > init > var bar = 0 That doesn't define a property. Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Qt vs. Gtk+ holy war Was: Steps to get to GTK+ 3.0

2008-06-05 Thread Christian Dywan
Am Thu, 05 Jun 2008 12:25:02 +0200 schrieb Xavier Bestel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 08:59 +0200, Jean-Yves Lefort wrote: > > Likewise, you can implement a class "Foo" containing an int property > > "bar" using the GObject way: > > > > #define G_TYPE_FOO (g_foo_g

Re: Steps to get to GTK+ 3.0

2008-06-05 Thread Hubert Figuiere
On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 08:59 +0200, Jean-Yves Lefort wrote: > or using the Qt way: > > class QFoo : public QObject > { >Q_OBJECT > >Q_PROPERTY(int bar READ bar WRITE setBar) > > public: >void setBar (int value); >int bar () c

Re: Is this a bug of GMainLoop?

2008-06-05 Thread Tor Lillqvist
> Yu's patch, to *current* trunk giowin32.c (I just committed a change > that improved the G_IO_WIN32_DEBUG output a bit) is as follows. Please > test it, all who can. (It should be trivial to apply it manually to > the glib-2-16 branch, too.) Hello, anyone ? Please... --tml > Index: glib/giowin

Re: Steps to get to GTK+ 3.0

2008-06-05 Thread Paul LeoNerd Evans
On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 10:44:08 +0300 "Felipe Contreras" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > P.S. Me, and many developers hate C++ with passion, if a toolkit > requires C++, it's cutting a huge user-base. See also earlier discussions regarding C89 vs. C99 style, specifically with regard to availability of c

Re: Qt vs. Gtk+ holy war Was: Steps to get to GTK+ 3.0

2008-06-05 Thread Xavier Bestel
On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 08:59 +0200, Jean-Yves Lefort wrote: > Likewise, you can implement a class "Foo" containing an int property > "bar" using the GObject way: > > #define G_TYPE_FOO (g_foo_get_type()) > #define G_FOO(obj) (G_TYPE_CHECK_INSTANCE_CAST((obj),

Qt vs. Gtk+ holy war Was: Steps to get to GTK+ 3.0

2008-06-05 Thread Alberto Ruiz
2008/6/5 Xavier Bestel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 08:59 +0200, Jean-Yves Lefort wrote: > [...] > > Likewise, you can implement a class "Foo" containing an int property > > "bar" using the GObject way: > > > > #define G_TYPE_FOO (g_foo_get_type()) > > #def

Patch biohazard report

2008-06-05 Thread Diego Escalante Urrelo
Hey everyone, as I said on IRC I will try to post my triaging on GTK+ patches here as often as possible, for this first edition I'll use patches from my first go some weeks ago[0] Small bugs, small patches - Bug 65818 – rename gtk_window_set_default() and add getter for it This is just adds a r

Re: Steps to get to GTK+ 3.0

2008-06-05 Thread Xavier Bestel
On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 08:59 +0200, Jean-Yves Lefort wrote: [...] > Likewise, you can implement a class "Foo" containing an int property > "bar" using the GObject way: > > #define G_TYPE_FOO (g_foo_get_type()) > #define G_FOO(obj) (G_TYPE_CHECK_INSTANCE_CAST((o

Re: Steps to get to GTK+ 3.0

2008-06-05 Thread Kristian Rietveld
Hi, On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 05:30:37PM -0400, Havoc Pennington wrote: > On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 2:37 PM, BJ?rn Lindqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Regardless, gtk+ 3.0 is a long-term project, probably with a first > > release sometime in 2010 or so. Embedded developers wont want to pick > > it

Re: Steps to get to GTK+ 3.0

2008-06-05 Thread BJörn Lindqvist
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 11:30 PM, Havoc Pennington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 2:37 PM, BJörn Lindqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Regardless, gtk+ 3.0 is a long-term project, probably with a first >> release sometime in 2010 or so. Embedded developers wont want to pick >>

Re: Steps to get to GTK+ 3.0

2008-06-05 Thread Felipe Contreras
On 6/5/08, Jean-Yves Lefort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sure, both systems need some reflection capabilities, which neither C > nor C++ support natively. I don't see how this point would debunk the > fact that C++ is a more expressive language than C, and that writing > an object-oriented app

Re: Steps to get to GTK+ 3.0

2008-06-05 Thread Jean-Yves Lefort
On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 00:37:00 -0400 Behdad Esfahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2008-06-04 at 07:35 -0400, Paul Davis wrote: > > > Basically, something like this: > > > > > > http://doc.trolltech.com/4.4/properties.html > > > > > > When reading this and other Qt documents, one real