Il Mon, 9 May 2016 09:35:06 -0500 Edscott Wilson
scrisse:
> ...
> Many thanks to all those who have responded. With all the advice I'm now
> going to try cross compiling 64 bit GTK application for windows using all
> the tools available in ArchLinux and the AUR (which is quite a lot). Only
> if
2016-05-08 13:41 GMT-05:00 tito-wolit :
> If you don't like the advice being given by the experts on this list
> why you are still hanging around here?
>
>
Because he's a troll who gets a dopamine hit when someone answers. But I
must admit that he is polite and entertaining --although a bit child
On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 2:24 AM, Andrew Robinson wrote:
> Because you are entertaining.
Ditto. In fact every single one of your posts has had multiple dummy
spits. Your particular balance of begging for more help vs pouring
scorn on those who try to help is unique. Where else do you post? I
must
On 05/08/2016 05:45 PM, Andrew Robinson wrote:
Like most people in this forum, you don't listen:
My issue isn't with GTK2, it is with GTK3.
I know Fedora has precompiled GTK2 binaries but doesn't help me with GTK3.
My original issue is clearly stated as using the following environme
On 05/08/2016 05:45 PM, Andrew Robinson wrote:
Like most people in this forum, you don't listen:
My issue isn't with GTK2, it is with GTK3.
I know Fedora has precompiled GTK2 binaries but doesn't help me with GTK3.
My original issue is clearly stated as using the following environme
Welcome to my Trash folder; you'll be directed there by the filter I
just put in place. Watch out for the falling banana peels.
On 05/08/16 12:24, Andrew Robinson wrote:
Because you are entertaining.
On 5/8/2016 at 9:09 AM, Chris Moller wrote:
If you don't like the people on this forum, and
Because you are entertaining.
On 5/8/2016 at 9:09 AM, Chris Moller wrote:
>If you don't like the people on this forum, and you don't like the
>answers you've gotten, why are you still here?
>
>
>On 05/08/16 11:45, Andrew Robinson wrote:
>> Like most people in this forum, you don't listen:
>>
>>
If you don't like the people on this forum, and you don't like the
answers you've gotten, why are you still here?
On 05/08/16 11:45, Andrew Robinson wrote:
Like most people in this forum, you don't listen:
My issue isn't with GTK2, it is with GTK3.
I know Fedora has precompiled GTK2
Like most people in this forum, you don't listen:
My issue isn't with GTK2, it is with GTK3.
I know Fedora has precompiled GTK2 binaries but doesn't help me with GTK3.
My original issue is clearly stated as using the following environment:
32-bit version of GTK+ v3.18 on a 64-bit Win
(Approximate repost of a message I sent with a wrong From address; looks
like the mods haven't delivered nor rejected it, hence the repost, but I
don't have the original message so this will break the thread. Sorry for
that.)
Andrew Robinson:
So is that how to actually get help on the GTK Dev
On 05/06/2016 09:27 PM, Andrew Robinson wrote:
I'm sorry for that. One of my biggest flaws in human relations is detecting
when someone is being ironic, sarcastic, or is just joking around, and when
they are being serious.
I would think both list would be interested in knowing what is required
I'm sorry for that. One of my biggest flaws in human relations is detecting
when someone is being ironic, sarcastic, or is just joking around, and when
they are being serious.
I would think both list would be interested in knowing what is required of
their projects by the lawyers at GTK. This is a
On 05/06/2016 07:01 PM, Lucas Levrel wrote:
> Le 5 mai 2016, Andrew Robinson a écrit :
>> 1) Because there are between 40 to 120Mb worth of libraries or their
>> dependencies I would have to post on my website.
>
> It's not clear to me whether one has to distribute GTK if it's linked
> statically,
OK. I understand your mileage is very different from mine. Remember, I'm
just a GTK user (this is GTK *app devel* list, not GTK devel list).
Just a few remarks before I answer your other mail:
Le 5 mai 2016, Andrew Robinson a écrit :
1) Because there are between 40 to 120Mb worth of libraries
Thank you Allin for your wonderful and knowledgeable technical advice,
everything is working now as it should. You are the best. Just ask me anytime
to be a reference for you, and I will do my best, just as you have done for
me.
On 5/5/2016 at 12:58 PM, Allin Cottrell wrote:
>On Thu, 5 May 2016,
That's weird! I've never heard of a Linux distribution that also has
precompiled packages for Win32. I will check it out at my earliest
convenience. You mentioned GTK2, but I am hoping it also has (or has switched
over to) GTK3.
I hope this isn't too good to be true. I will be too busy to check fo
On Thu, 5 May 2016, Andrew Robinson wrote:
So is that how to actually get help on the GTK Dev forums? Beg for help?
(This in response to Lucas Levrel's suggesting a "please" following
the imperative "show me your source code.")
LL was merely requesting a little civility. In many years of re
So is that how to actually get help on the GTK Dev forums? Beg for help? I
thought posting a problem would be enough, but okay then ... pretty please
help me ...
Your source code doesn't work, so let's compare environments. I have:
1) Windows7
2) Win32 version of GTK+, version 3.18
3) The pathnam
Note that if you are using fedora (and possibly other Linux distributions)
it comes with lots of win32 packages precompiled. E.g. all you need to do
to get gtk2 and its dependencies is to do:
dnf install mingw32-gtk2
You can then compile your gtk programs for windows through cross
compilation
On 5/5/2016 at 10:23 AM, Lucas Levrel wrote:
>Le 5 mai 2016, Andrew Robinson a écrit :
>
>> So if I don't want to make my on copy of the GTK+ libraries,
>
>Why wouldn't you want to build your static libs for future inclusion in
>your software? Where "build" is for "let the Makefile of MXE do all
Le 5 mai 2016, Andrew Robinson a écrit :
Actually, MXE isn't a compiler, but a Makefile that compiles a cross compiler.
OK.
So if I don't want to make my on copy of the GTK+ libraries,
Why wouldn't you want to build your static libs for future inclusion in
your software? Where "build" is
Le 5 mai 2016, Andrew Robinson a écrit :
I've just tested a filename containing spaces and U+221E (infinity
symbol), writing and reading both work.
So you verified that in Windows using the Win32 version of GTK+? Show me your
source code.
"Please."
Cross-compiled on Linux with i686-pc-mingw32
So you verified that in Windows using the Win32 version of GTK+? Show me your
source code.
On 5/5/2016 at 3:57 AM, Lucas Levrel wrote:
>Le 3 mai 2016, Andrew Robinson a écrit :
>
>>> I don't think I tried filenames with spaces, but I did test filenames with
>>> accented letters in both Linux and
Actually, MXE isn't a compiler, but a Makefile that compiles a cross compiler.
So if I don't want to make my on copy of the GTK+ libraries, I must tell
grandma and grandpa to get their own copy of MSYS2 and MXE, and provide make
their own copy of GTK+ for Win32. Wouldn't that be easy and fun?
On
Le 3 mai 2016, Andrew Robinson a écrit :
I don't think I tried filenames with spaces, but I did test filenames with
accented letters in both Linux and Windows, and it worked (using GTK2).
E.g. for reading a file contents into one big string I have this:
I don't know about accented letters, sin
Le 3 mai 2016, Andrew Robinson a écrit :
Is it really necessary for every Windows application bundle to ship its
own copy of GTK+?
By default MXE links statically. So you don't have any dll to bundle with
your app. In such circumstances, what does LGPL say? Do you still have to
provide the GT
Try this package:
$ pacman -Ss mingw-w64-i686-gtk3
mingw32/mingw-w64-i686-gtk3 3.18.6-1 [installed]
GObject-based multi-platform GUI toolkit (v3) (mingw-w64)
On 5/4/2016 3:51 PM, Andrew Robinson wrote:
> Yeah, I see that, but that only downloads 64-bit binaries. I need the Win-32
> binaries.
Yeah, I see that, but that only downloads 64-bit binaries. I need the Win-32
binaries.
On 5/4/2016 at 12:20 PM, Florian Pelz wrote:
>On 05/04/2016 03:59 PM, Andrew Robinson wrote:
>> No, there are no Win32 binaries in MSYS2. Where are you getting your
>> information?
>>
>
>MSYS2 contains pacman
On 05/04/2016 03:59 PM, Andrew Robinson wrote:
> No, there are no Win32 binaries in MSYS2. Where are you getting your
> information?
>
MSYS2 contains pacman. `pacman -Syu mingw-w64-x86_64-gtk3` downloads
GTK+ binaries for x86_64 and puts them in the C:\msys64\mingw64
directory (by default). This
No, there are no Win32 binaries in MSYS2. Where are you getting your
information?
On 5/4/2016 at 12:29 AM, Florian Pelz wrote:
>On 05/04/2016 02:22 AM, Andrew Robinson wrote:
>> I have an idea! Why doesn't someone just compile all the binaries for Win32
>> and Win64 and make them available on the
On 5/3/2016 at 5:42 PM, Allin Cottrell wrote:
>On Tue, 3 May 2016, Andrew Robinson wrote:
>
>> I have never seen a cross-compiled version of Fedora. Is it related to the
>> mythical Chimera?
>
>Read for comprehension. Fedora is strictly Linux (of course), but
>offers a set of packages that enable
On 05/04/2016 02:22 AM, Andrew Robinson wrote:
> I have an idea! Why doesn't someone just compile all the binaries for Win32
> and Win64 and make them available on the Internet, that way none of us will
> have to go through all this stupid BS just to get some binaries? Just two
> packages, one for
On Tue, 3 May 2016, Andrew Robinson wrote:
I have never seen a cross-compiled version of Fedora. Is it related to the
mythical Chimera?
Read for comprehension. Fedora is strictly Linux (of course), but
offers a set of packages that enable you to cross-compile with ease
for MS Windows.
Alli
I just found the link to MSVC 2013 on Microsoft's site. Visual Studio is not
free, Visual Studio Express or Community is free. It will still require me to
uninstall my current version of MSVC in order to run this older version,
because different versions of MSVC on the same computer do not play wel
On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 11:52 PM, Andrew Robinson
wrote:
> The website, https://github.com/wingtk/gtk-win32, looks really good at
> first
> glance, until you read the fine print where it says, "Any version of VS
> apart
> from 2013 is not supported". What if I don't have VS 2013, what then? You
>
There are many ways to have good gtk3 binaries for Windows:
- if you are using mingw you can fetch updated gtk3 binaries from msys2
(https://github.com/Alexpux/MSYS2-packages)
- if you are cross compling Fedora and other distros provide mingw binaries
- if you are using MSVC, there are no pre-b
On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 9:32 PM, Andrew Robinson wrote:
> Been there, done that. The latest version of GTK+ that GNOME has is 2.24,
> i.e.
> -- there are no 3.x binaries.
>
>
There are many ways to have good gtk3 binaries for Windows:
- if you are using mingw you can fetch updated gtk3 binaries f
On 5/3/2016 at 11:34 AM, Dov Grobgeld wrote:
>Another equivalent scons-based way of compiling for windows with gcc is
>shown in my program giv.
>
>See: https://github.com/dov/giv/blob/master/SConstruct
>
>SCons uses the Sconstruct files to do the cross-compilation and also calls
>out to nsis to cr
On 05/03/2016 08:34 PM, Dov Grobgeld wrote:
> The complete gtk run time is only about 20MB in size (at least for gtk2)
> which with todays hard disk sizes really is negligable, so I agree that
> there is no reason to try to create a common gtk runtime.
>
> I still remember the frustration back in
Another equivalent scons-based way of compiling for windows with gcc is
shown in my program giv.
See: https://github.com/dov/giv/blob/master/SConstruct
SCons uses the Sconstruct files to do the cross-compilation and also calls
out to nsis to create a windows installer.
The complete gtk run time
On Tue, 3 May 2016, Dave Howorth wrote:
On 2016-05-03 16:57, Florian Pelz wrote:
I'd like to have one standard GTK+ installer for the GTK+ DLLs etc. that
can be downloaded and installed from other installers, so there is just
one GTK+ installed on Windows instead of one copy of perhaps differen
On 05/03/2016 06:12 PM, Dave Howorth wrote:
> On 2016-05-03 16:57, Florian Pelz wrote:
>> I'd like to have one standard GTK+ installer for the GTK+ DLLs etc. that
>> can be downloaded and installed from other installers, so there is just
>> one GTK+ installed on Windows instead of one copy of perha
On 2016-05-03 16:57, Florian Pelz wrote:
I'd like to have one standard GTK+ installer for the GTK+ DLLs etc. that
can be downloaded and installed from other installers, so there is just
one GTK+ installed on Windows instead of one copy of perhaps different
versions of GTK+ for each application.
On 05/03/2016 03:26 PM, Lucas Levrel wrote:
> By default MXE links statically. So you don't have any dll to bundle
> with your app. In such circumstances, what does LGPL say? Do you still
> have to provide the GTK source code (given that you don't distribute GTK
> libs)?
>
IANAL, but if the libra
On 05/03/2016 04:57 PM, Andrew Robinson wrote:
> Well I can't ship MSYS2 and MXE with my application, and I most certainly
> can't sell any application to grandma and grandpa, if it requires instructions
> on how to install MSYS2 and MXE just so you can run my application.
>
For MSYS2, you create
>> Is it really necessary for every Windows application bundle to ship its
>> own copy of GTK+?
>By default MXE links statically. So you don't have any dll to bundle with
>your app. In such circumstances, what does LGPL say? Do you still have to
>provide the GTK source code (given that you don't
>I don't think I tried filenames with spaces, but I did test filenames with
>accented letters in both Linux and Windows, and it worked (using GTK2).
>E.g. for reading a file contents into one big string I have this:
I don't know about accented letters, since they are a part of the Windows
versio
Le 2 mai 2016, Florian Pelz a écrit :
On 05/02/2016 12:36 PM, Lucas Levrel wrote:
Then I found MinGW Cross Env, now called MXE (http://mxe.cc/). It
compiled my project with no effort at all.
This is interesting. May I hijack this thread?
I did not know about MXE. What is their relationship w
Le 2 mai 2016, Andrew Robinson a écrit :
I could find functions that worked for the command line, but I couldn't find
any that worked for the filechooser, and when I go online and do a search,
there are no examples for what I want to do. The GNOME forum answered my
UNICODE question for the comma
>Your problem about using UTF16 is related to the fact you are using
>windows os and not linux or unix or macos x. All the others use utf-8
>EXCEPT WINDOWS.
Isn't that what I was saying? It is horrid that Microsoft uses UTF-16 because,
just like their software, it bloats everything to twice the s
On 04/30/2016 11:25 PM, Andrew Robinson wrote:
> My initial request for help in this forum was that main(argc,argv) only
> returned garbage instead of the command line when using the 32-bit version of
> GTK+ v3.18 on a 64-bit Windows7 OS. This forum was unable to offer any expert
> help or advice o
Thank you Lucas, for submitting this post. MXE seems very interesting and I
feel compelled to do some more research into it.
On 5/2/2016 at 3:36 AM, Lucas Levrel wrote:
>(copy to OP in case he's already unsubscribed, apologies for duplication
>if he's not)
>
>Le 30 avril 2016, Andrew Robinson a
On 05/02/2016 12:36 PM, Lucas Levrel wrote:
> […]
>
> I'm not an expert programmer and when I wanted to compile for Windows
> the software I developped in Linux, I couldn't achieve a satisfactory
> result (using the -mwin32 or -mwindows flag gave either a clumsy
> additional command window, or yie
(copy to OP in case he's already unsubscribed, apologies for duplication
if he's not)
Le 30 avril 2016, Andrew Robinson a écrit :
Now my new problem I had was either locating a Win32 version of GTK+ greater
than v3.18 or locating a version of libglib.dll greater than v2.40. It isn't
going to ha
My initial request for help in this forum was that main(argc,argv) only
returned garbage instead of the command line when using the 32-bit version of
GTK+ v3.18 on a 64-bit Windows7 OS. This forum was unable to offer any expert
help or advice on this matter so I put it aside. A few days later I tho
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