Re: help installing grub-ima

2007-10-25 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 04:21:59PM -0500, Andrei E. Warkentin wrote: > >>I think the SELinux people might object to that. One of the biggest > >>problems with security in Linux is that the Linux kernel is not and > >>cannot be the core root of trust, as it is by far not the first thing > >>running

Re: help installing grub-ima

2007-10-23 Thread Andrei E. Warkentin
Fair enough. Your original response seemed a tad knee-jerk ;-) Andrei Evgenievich Warkentin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: (+1) (847) 321-15-55 23.10.2007, в 15:50, Robert Millan писал(а): And to clarify a bit more, I don't have anything against local security checks that are controlled by the ow

Re: help installing grub-ima

2007-10-23 Thread Andrei E. Warkentin
[1] Well, assuming our hypervirus is not dumb, they would just see that your computer lacks a Treacherous Chip or is not using it, which is not very useful. But of course, this has an easy solution: - Premise: everyone who's not on TC is therefore running an hypervirus - Co

Re: help installing grub-ima

2007-10-23 Thread Robert Millan
And to clarify a bit more, I don't have anything against local security checks that are controlled by the owner. I merely think they're useless (unless you're running LinuxBIOS, which would break the chain of trust anyway), but if they make you feel safe, no big deal. OTOH, when it is someone el

Re: help installing grub-ima

2007-10-23 Thread Robert Millan
Please don't take me wrong, I don't mean to say that everything the TCG has produced is encumbered by evilness. As I see it, my position is just: - I don't like to discuss about "bundle terms", because they mean so many things at the same time, and they might mix pure evil with rather

Re: help installing grub-ima

2007-10-23 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 09:11:58AM -0500, Andrei E. Warkentin wrote: > ...Because having the ability, to be certain you didn't have a > hypervirus or at runtime-binary-patched kernel booted due to a hacked > bootloader loading from something like a USB stick, is one step > towards "treacherou

Re: help installing grub-ima

2007-10-23 Thread Andrei E. Warkentin
...Because having the ability, to be certain you didn't have a hypervirus or at runtime-binary-patched kernel booted due to a hacked bootloader loading from something like a USB stick, is one step towards "treacherous computing", whatever that is. I think the SELinux people might object to

Re: help installing grub-ima

2007-10-23 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 12:09:55PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > hi > i'm trying to install grub-ima, the grub patch that enable it to use the TPM > chip in the bootstrap. > i follow this guide We don't support Treacherous Computing because it's against the ideals of freedom we are trying t

help installing grub-ima

2007-10-23 Thread myfreneticvisions-grub
hi i'm trying to install grub-ima, the grub patch that enable it to use the TPM chip in the bootstrap. i follow this guide http://trousers.sourceforge.net/wiki/view/Main/GrubSetupGuide?PHPSESSID=7a414e06e77e726b71e4b90ea7bce9d9 an i have Fedora core 7 i reached the point 2-2 ( i hop 2-