On Sat, Dec 05, 2009 at 04:16:45AM EST, Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
wrote:
> Chris Jones wrote:
Hello Vladimir,
[..]
> > Also, is there any way I can run the grub command line on a system
> > that's already booted, so I can explore its possibities in a context
> > where I have interne
On Sat, Dec 05, 2009 at 04:16:45AM EST, Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
wrote:
> Chris Jones wrote:
[..]
> > Why do I have to enable tracing to make it work?
> >
> Because a dprintf acted as a forgotten millisleep. This patch should
> fix it. On my machine I still have issues because uhci.
On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 04:45:01PM -0600, richardvo...@gmail.com wrote:
> There are actually quite a lot of devices like this. Most notebooks
> have broken BIOS that won't load the extension ROM from a PCMCIA slot,
> if grub could do so it would enable booting from a wide variety of
> PCMCIA/CardB
On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 09:28:32PM -0600, richardvo...@gmail.com wrote:
> > And all of this only to make good to someone who would like to see every
> > free software die?
>
> Not all supporters of free software share that philosophy, quite a few
> of us like to be able to tell people "that propri
Chris Jones wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 05:52:37PM EST, Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
> wrote:
>
> [..]
>
>
>> This is just module loading. I guess your terminal is slow which causes
>> an enormous slowback when loading module. You can using
>>
>
>
>> debug=usb,uhci,ohci
>>
On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 09:58:23PM EST, richardvo...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Chris Jones wrote:
[..]
> > Why do I have to enable tracing to make it work?
>
> Yesterday Vladimir wrote:
>
> (quote)
> There is an issue that somewhere grub misses a delay between uhci
> c
2009/12/4 Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko :
> Robert Millan wrote:
>> On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 06:27:07PM -0600, richardvo...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> 2009/12/3 Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko :
>>>
Chris Jones wrote:
> I am trying to have grub boot off a partition on a USB
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Chris Jones wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 05:52:37PM EST, Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
> wrote:
>
> [..]
>
>> This is just module loading. I guess your terminal is slow which causes
>> an enormous slowback when loading module. You can using
>
>> debug=u
On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 05:52:37PM EST, Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
wrote:
[..]
> This is just module loading. I guess your terminal is slow which causes
> an enormous slowback when loading module. You can using
> debug=usb,uhci,ohci
> instead of
> debug=all
I was able to boot the pa
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Robert Millan wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 06:27:07PM -0600, richardvo...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 2009/12/3 Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko :
>> > Chris Jones wrote:
>> >> I am trying to have grub boot off a partition on a USB stick.
>> >>
>> >>
>> > You can't
Robert Millan wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 06:27:07PM -0600, richardvo...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> 2009/12/3 Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko :
>>
>>> Chris Jones wrote:
>>>
I am trying to have grub boot off a partition on a USB stick.
>>> You can't
On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 06:27:07PM -0600, richardvo...@gmail.com wrote:
> 2009/12/3 Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko :
> > Chris Jones wrote:
> >> I am trying to have grub boot off a partition on a USB stick.
> >>
> >>
> > You can't chainload to disk invisible by BIOS. But you can load
> > sup
On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 05:52:37PM EST, Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
wrote:
> Chris Jones wrote:
[..]
> > Barring typos or omissions, the trace reveals that the perceived
> > 'hang' after issuing 'insmod uhci' is in fact grub looping over the
> > following code:
> > /build/buildd/grub2
2009/12/3 Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko :
> Chris Jones wrote:
>> I am trying to have grub boot off a partition on a USB stick.
>>
>>
> You can't chainload to disk invisible by BIOS. But you can load
> supported OSes from it.
What would be necessary to enable chainload to such devices? In
On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 05:52:37PM EST, Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
wrote:
> Chris Jones wrote:
[..]
> > Barring typos or omissions, the trace reveals that the perceived
> > 'hang' after issuing 'insmod uhci' is in fact grub looping over the
> > following code:
> > /build/buildd/grub2
Chris Jones wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 03:24:31PM EST, Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
> wrote:
>
>> Chris Jones wrote:
>>
Can you issue:
debug=all
insmod uhci
insmod usbms
debug=all
ls -l
debug=
ls -l
And to post the result?
On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 03:24:31PM EST, Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
wrote:
> Chris Jones wrote:
> >> Can you issue:
> >> debug=all
> >> insmod uhci
> >> insmod usbms
> >> debug=all
> >> ls -l
> >> debug=
> >> ls -l
> >> And to post the result?
Barring typos or omissions, the trace revea
On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 03:24:31PM EST, Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
wrote:
> Chris Jones wrote:
> >> Can you issue:
> >> debug=all
> >> insmod uhci
> >> insmod usbms
> >> debug=all
> >> ls -l
> >> debug=
> >> ls -l
> >> And to post the result?
> >>
> >
> > Certainly.
> >
> > Any way
On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 03:02:27PM EST, Duboucher Thomas wrote:
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> You could do this easily using a serial null-modem cable, but I don't
> think you have one. :(
;-)
Another fascinating hardware aspect I never got down to investigating
>
> You could do this easily using a serial null-modem cable, but I don't
> think you have one. :(
> Also, the uhci module was making Grub2 hang on an HP nc8430, though I
> don' remember having reported this here.
>
There is an issue that somewhere grub misses a delay between uhci
commands
Chris Jones wrote:
>> Can you issue:
>> debug=all
>> insmod uhci
>> insmod usbms
>> debug=all
>> ls -l
>> debug=
>> ls -l
>> And to post the result?
>>
>
> Certainly.
>
> Any way I could redirect the output to something like a file, both in
> the interest of efficiency and accuracy?
>
No. W
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Chris Jones a écrit :
> On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 10:16:17AM EST, Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
> wrote:
>> Chris Jones wrote:
>
>>> I am trying to have grub boot off a partition on a USB stick.
>>>
>>>
>> You can't chainload to disk invisib
On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 10:16:17AM EST, Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
wrote:
> Chris Jones wrote:
> > I am trying to have grub boot off a partition on a USB stick.
> >
> >
> You can't chainload to disk invisible by BIOS. But you can load
> supported OSes from it.
> > I issued the follo
Chris Jones wrote:
> I am trying to have grub boot off a partition on a USB stick.
>
>
You can't chainload to disk invisible by BIOS. But you can load
supported OSes from it.
> I issued the following command from the grub command line:
>
> % insmod uhci
>
> grub was hung and I had to do a hard r
Chris Jones wrote:
I am trying to have grub boot off a partition on a USB stick.
I issued the following command from the grub command line:
% insmod uhci
grub was hung and I had to do a hard reset.
Is this to be expected, considering that this is a fairly old system and
the BIOS knows nothing
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