Re: [RFC] Multiboot2 drafting

2010-06-02 Thread Nathan Whitehorn
Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko wrote: Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko wrote: Andrew Reilly wrote: Hi there, I know next to nothing about GRUB, and have not yet read the multiboot spec, but I wonder if you could comment on how or whether this is related to either the Ope

Re: [RFC] Multiboot2 drafting

2010-05-24 Thread Andrew Reilly
Hi Vladimir, On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 08:19:14PM +0200, Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko wrote: > I've looked into it and found good and bad things. Thanks for looking! I didn't expect that it would be all good: I've only read some papers, and it seemed to be covering much the same sort of

Re: [RFC] Multiboot2 drafting

2010-05-24 Thread Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko wrote: > Andrew Reilly wrote: > >> Hi there, >> >> I know next to nothing about GRUB, and have not yet read the >> multiboot spec, but I wonder if you could comment on how or >> whether this is related to either the Open Firmware Device Tree >> or the Flatte

Re: [RFC] Multiboot2 drafting

2010-05-24 Thread Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
M. Warner Losh wrote: > In message: <4becee31.3060...@gmail.com> > Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko writes: > : Yes and No. multiboot2 describes some aspects of the host system > : hardware but I've never heard of device trees outside of IEEE1275 or > : xnu, where it's probably a

Re: [RFC] Multiboot2 drafting

2010-05-24 Thread Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
Andrew Reilly wrote: > Hi there, > > I know next to nothing about GRUB, and have not yet read the > multiboot spec, but I wonder if you could comment on how or > whether this is related to either the Open Firmware Device Tree > or the Flattened Device Tree used in various embedded OS ports. > It wo

Re: [RFC] Multiboot2 drafting

2010-05-14 Thread Rafal Jaworowski
On 2010-05-14, at 14:44, M. Warner Losh wrote: > In message: <4becee31.3060...@gmail.com> >Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko writes: > : Yes and No. multiboot2 describes some aspects of the host system > : hardware but I've never heard of device trees outside of IEEE1275 or > : x

Re: [RFC] Multiboot2 drafting

2010-05-14 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <4becee31.3060...@gmail.com> Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko writes: : 2) Keep the things as advanced as they need to but not more advanced. : E.g. when you supply an info about serial port you tell: it's at I/O : port N rather than: it's in PCI bar X of device Y offs

Re: [RFC] Multiboot2 drafting

2010-05-14 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <4becee31.3060...@gmail.com> Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko writes: : Yes and No. multiboot2 describes some aspects of the host system : hardware but I've never heard of device trees outside of IEEE1275 or : xnu, where it's probably a historical leftover. It is far

Re: [RFC] Multiboot2 drafting

2010-05-14 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <20100514132142.252b0...@ernst.jennejohn.org> Gary Jennejohn writes: : As an example of what I think Andrew was addressing, U-Boot can pass a : Flattened Device Tree to the Linux kernel. This basically allows a : Linux kernel to handle variants of a board without having to

Re: [RFC] Multiboot2 drafting

2010-05-14 Thread Gary Jennejohn
On Fri, 14 May 2010 08:31:13 +0200 Vladimir '__-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko wrote: > > Hi there, > > > > I know next to nothing about GRUB, and have not yet read the > > multiboot spec, but I wonder if you could comment on how or > > whether this is related to either the Open Firmware Device Tree >

Re: [RFC] Multiboot2 drafting

2010-05-13 Thread Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
> Hi there, > > I know next to nothing about GRUB, and have not yet read the > multiboot spec, but I wonder if you could comment on how or > whether this is related to either the Open Firmware Device Tree > or the Flattened Device Tree used in various embedded OS ports. > It would be cool if there

Re: [RFC] Multiboot2 drafting

2010-05-13 Thread Andrew Reilly
Hi there, I know next to nothing about GRUB, and have not yet read the multiboot spec, but I wonder if you could comment on how or whether this is related to either the Open Firmware Device Tree or the Flattened Device Tree used in various embedded OS ports. It would be cool if there were some con

[RFC] Multiboot2 drafting

2010-05-11 Thread Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
Hello, all. In GRUB2 community we're currently working on a next-generation multiboot specification. It has goals similar to the original multiboot specification but with important flaws fixed: 1) Instead of having bunch of pointers to subtables it uses a tagged structure now. It allows it to be ea

[RFC] Multiboot2 drafting

2010-04-03 Thread Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
Hello, all. In GRUB2 community we're currently working on a next-generation multiboot specification. It has goals similar to the original multiboot specification but with important flaws fixed: 1) Instead of having bunch of pointers to subtables it uses a tagged structure now. It allows it to be ea