Re: [Groff] character u21D5 is not available in groff

2014-05-29 Thread Ted Harding
is character \[vA]. Some idea? >> > >> > Originally contained in the glyph sets of -Tlj4 and -Tdvi; added to >> > -Tps later on, using the standard AGL name `uni21D5'. >> >> Fine. I seem reasonable to include this and the other 4 characters >>

Re: [Groff] character u21D5 is not available in groff

2014-05-29 Thread Ted Harding
neral for all devices. How can this be done? > > I don't think that the standard PostScript Symbol font contains > \[vA], so in general it won't be possible unless you provide > your own fonts. > > But you can approximate it by overprinting arrowdblup (\[uA]) > and arro

Re: [Groff] bold greek, e.g. sigma ?

2014-06-03 Thread Ted Harding
ve nice-looking results from this method, and in any case it is not a true emboldening -- the horizontal (or nearly horizontal) elements of a glyph will not be thickened at all. Still, it may help! Ted. - E-Mail: (Ted Harding) Date: 04-Jun-2014 Time: 00:31:56 This message was sent by XFMail -

Re: [Groff] groff postscript output rotated 90 degrees in for a 4 x 2.5 inch label?

2014-06-09 Thread Ted Harding
;${tmpfile}2 >> >> but again, no output. >> >> Oddly >> >> pstops '0V' ${tmpfile} >${tmpfile}2 >> >> produces the expected vertical reflection. >> >> >> Any suggestions? >> >> Is there a way to do the rotation _within_ groff? >> >> (I know about the pic "aligned" hack, >> but that seems to be useful only for simple unformatted text. >> I would need to rotate an entire groff diversion.) >> >> >> -- >> Mike Bianchi >> Foveal Systems >> >> 973 822-2085 >> >> mbian...@foveal.com >> http://www.AutoAuditorium.com >> http://www.FovealMounts.com >> >> > - E-Mail: (Ted Harding) Date: 09-Jun-2014 Time: 10:53:17 This message was sent by XFMail -

Re: [Groff] groff postscript output rotated 90 degrees in for a 4 x 2.5 inch label?

2014-06-09 Thread Ted Harding
St > London > SW1A 2AA > $ > $ groff -P -p4i,2.5i mike.tr >mike.ps > > No need for external psutils? > > Cheers, Ralph. Which just goes to sow what you can do with groff! Ted. - E-Mail: (Ted Harding) Date: 09-Jun-2014 Time: 12:31:31 This message was sent by XFMail -

Re: [Groff] Three topics related to images

2014-06-21 Thread Ted Harding
instead. Performing conversions on-the-fly >> by repeatedly calling external programs while running groff >> strikes me as wasteful, since I'd be formatting a document >> quite a number of times while writing it, and I'd probably >> be too impatient to wait the extr

Re: [Groff] Issue with Groff (Right-to-left support)

2014-06-25 Thread Ted Harding
problem here). Many (about 25) years ago there was a version called ffortid (i.e. RTL "ditroff"). I did try this for a while, but did not manage to get used to it! Nonetheless, if you try a google search on "ffortid" you will get several hits, some of which may be useful. Good luck! Ted. - E-Mail: (Ted Harding) Date: 25-Jun-2014 Time: 11:50:23 This message was sent by XFMail -

Re: [Groff] Issue with Groff (Right-to-left support)

2014-06-25 Thread Ted Harding
[Follow-up: see at end] On 25-Jun-2014 10:50:26 Ted Harding wrote: > On 25-Jun-2014 10:16:13 Russell Hyer wrote: >> Hi, >> I am writing to ask whether anyone on this list knows about any >> built in right-to-left support for Groff (without having to resort >> to hack

Re: [Groff] underlining

2014-07-07 Thread Ted Harding
' can be used. >> >> .\" Copy the following lines for any underlined part >> . >> .\" before, not underlined, choose \& when empty >> .ds u1 before >> .\" this is underlined >> .ds u2 in >> .\" after, not underlined, choose \& when empty >> .ds u3 after >> . >> .ie n \(*u1\fI\*(u2\fP\*(u3\" >> .el \(*u1\Z'\*(u2'\v'.25m'\D'l \w'\*(u2'u 0'\v'-.25m'\*(u3\" >> .. >> >> 7) I propose to include similar documentations about underlining in groff.7 >> (man/groff.man). >> >> Bernd Warken >> >> > - E-Mail: (Ted Harding) Date: 07-Jul-2014 Time: 21:53:48 This message was sent by XFMail -

Re: [Groff] tbl: and (T) as tab

2014-07-16 Thread Ted Harding
t; >> It might be possible, to allow also strings in the tab()-line as a first >> step, instead of now only single character methods. > > qtbl is already really very good. And what is qtbl? Best wishes to all, Ted. - E-Mail: (Ted Harding) Date: 16-Jul-2014 Time: 20:48:28 This message was sent by XFMail -

Re: [Groff] Compression support for files?

2014-07-17 Thread Ted Harding
I have also just seen Keith's latest response, which arrived while I was writing this). Best wishes to all, Ted. - E-Mail: (Ted Harding) Date: 17-Jul-2014 Time: 23:07:49 This message was sent by XFMail -

Re: [Groff] \[-+] not available? why?

2014-07-29 Thread Ted Harding
e probably has to do with the version of groff. In 1.18.1 I have only \[+-] and \[t+-], not \[-+] which seems to be absent from all the font files. Best wishes to all, Ted. - E-Mail: (Ted Harding) Date: 29-Jul-2014 Time: 13:59:59 This message was sent by XFMail -

Re: [Groff] \[-+] not available? why?

2014-07-29 Thread Ted Harding
t;\[+-]", and this results in a symbols "±" consistiing of a "+" sign above a "-" sign. When you say 'I need "minus plus" as well as "plus minus", do you mean that you also need a symbol consisting of a "-" sign above a "+" sign? Ted. - E-Mail: (Ted Harding) Date: 29-Jul-2014 Time: 15:17:15 This message was sent by XFMail -

Re: [Groff] \[-+] not available? why?

2014-07-29 Thread Ted Harding
erstood > from Werner's reply, this symbol is now available via > the PS driver. > > Anton In case you don't have it available, or can't access it, I will how how to create it! (But not just now, since I have to do other things; so later). Ted. - E-Mail: (Ted Harding) Date: 29-Jul-2014 Time: 16:20:58 This message was sent by XFMail -

Re: [Groff] \[-+] not available? why?

2014-07-30 Thread Ted Harding
cos ( A ) cos ( B ) ~ -+ ~ sin ( A ) sin ( B ) .EN and, to show how the scaling adapts: .EQ a ~+-~ b ~-+~ c ~ e sup{a~ +-~ b ~-+~ c} .EN This little thing has provoked quite some interest! Best wishes to all, Ted. - E-Mail: (Ted Harding) Date: 30-Jul-2014 Time: 13:40:52 This message was sent by XFMail -

Re: [Groff] \[-+] not available? why?

2014-07-31 Thread Ted Harding
involve extra options "-mpreted -mted" in the command that calls troff. (I will spare the list the details of this lot ... ). Best wishes to all, Ted. - E-Mail: (Ted Harding) Date: 31-Jul-2014 Time: 18:47:42 This message was sent by XFMail -

Re: [Groff] \o and \z do not work for -Tutf8

2014-08-05 Thread Ted Harding
ld all take hours. With groff and such, I feel we have moved on a just little way from those days ... Best wishes to all, Ted. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correction_fluid - E-Mail: (Ted Harding) Date: 05-Aug-2014 Time: 10:01:43 This message was sent by XFMail -

Re: [Groff] OT: Fork of the Heirloom Documentation Tools for fixing bugs

2014-08-26 Thread Ted Harding
list members (further ;). > > Please let us know as soon as the list is set up. I (and others, I > imagine) will want to subscribe immediately. Indeed! Ted. --------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) Date: 26-Aug-2014 Time: 19:00:57 This message was sent by XFMail -

Re: [Groff] [Heirloom] Generating doc/ files

2014-08-28 Thread Ted Harding
ibertine could be implemented as a Helvetica Bold, or (in its "outline" version) as Helvetica Bold Blonde. With apologies to our Helvetian members. Ted. - E-Mail: (Ted Harding) Date: 28-Aug-2014 Time: 10:34:09 This message was sent by XFMail -

Re: [Groff] [Groff & Heirloom] tbl problem with backslashes

2014-09-01 Thread Ted Harding
licitly mark the separator, e.g.: .TS tab(#); a a . INPUT#PRODUCES #\\\& abc#def .TE Hoping this helps! Ted. - E-Mail: (Ted Harding) Date: 01-Sep-2014 Time: 09:00:08 This message was sent by XFMail -

Re: [Groff] ms .AB/.AE abstract loger than a page = macro error: cover sheet overflow

2014-09-05 Thread Ted Harding
rror cover sheet overflow So it is intended behaviour! The Cover Page is one page. Speaking for myself, I never use the cover-page resources, since it is more straightforward (and offers more flexibility) to simply write one's own leading text (if needed). Hoping this helps, Ted.

Re: [Groff] Missing text in PDF with Mom

2014-09-06 Thread Ted Harding
appens to be a macro, like '\.PP', you'll need to escape the period by preceding it with a backslash, like so '\\\.PP' So, like Ralph, I'm strongly tempted to conclude that this text simply did not, for whatever reason, get into the PDF. I'm not a Mommer, so cannot contribute any possible explanation! With best wishes, Ted. - E-Mail: (Ted Harding) Date: 06-Sep-2014 Time: 10:15:43 This message was sent by XFMail -

Re: [Groff] PDFPIC macro

2014-09-21 Thread Ted Harding
of the whole document -- see the %%BoundingBox: comment)." So there is a lot of flexibility of this kind in PostScript; but by default this is not exploited by groff (which, by default, does not even insert a %%BoundingBox: comment, though one can easily do this by putting appropriate commands in the start-up script one uses). Best wishes to all, Ted. - E-Mail: (Ted Harding) Date: 21-Sep-2014 Time: 12:45:35 This message was sent by XFMail -

Re: [Groff] troff sempervivens

2014-09-22 Thread Ted Harding
first place, as for spotting the missing " "). Ted. --------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) Date: 22-Sep-2014 Time: 21:00:43 This message was sent by XFMail -

Re: [Groff] condition: OR of two string comparisons

2014-11-23 Thread Ted Harding
result that eqn would in effect throw away everything that came after that solo "$". On such grounds, I think a notation like that suggested by Werner above (".ifx") is a much better idea! Maybe it could even be a macro? Best wishes to all, Ted. - E-Mail: (Ted Harding) Date: 23-Nov-2014 Time: 22:10:46 This message was sent by XFMail -

Re: [Groff] conditionals inside a table?

2014-12-04 Thread Ted Harding
ish.1:12: giving up on this table >> >> Please advise >> >> Thanks >> >> Anton >> > > -- > Mike Bianchi > Foveal Systems > > 973 822-2085 > > mbian...@foveal.com > http://www.AutoAuditorium.com > http://www.FovealMounts.com > - E-Mail: (Ted Harding) Date: 04-Dec-2014 Time: 17:22:46 This message was sent by XFMail -

Re: [Groff] unicode characters in macro names?

2014-12-10 Thread Ted Harding
ial to extend gtroff to cover Unicode or other character sets and encodings that use characters of these ranges." With best wishes, Ted. - E-Mail: (Ted Harding) Date: 10-Dec-2014 Time: 19:50:27 This message was sent by XFMail -

Re: [Groff] unicode characters in macro names?

2014-12-10 Thread Ted Harding
[Ooops! See [***] in-line below] On 10-Dec-2014 19:50:29 Ted Harding wrote: > On 10-Dec-2014 18:40:20 Dorai Sitaram wrote: >> Is this planned? Section 5.4 of the manual suggests that "almost any >> printable character" can be used, with the exception of spaces and such,

Re: [Groff] groff_char(7): Combination of characters vs. single unicode character

2014-12-15 Thread Ted Harding
plications): === .char \[mychar] \Z'\h'0.1m'='\Z'\v'-0.265m'/'\Z'\v'0.415m'\[rs]'\ \Z'\h'0.5m'\v'-0.265m'\[rs]'\Z'\h'0.5m'\v'0.415m'/'\ \h'0.5m+\w'/'u' The character \[mychar] doesn't represent anything! === Best wishes to all, Ted. - E-Mail: (Ted Harding) Date: 15-Dec-2014 Time: 20:26:06 This message was sent by XFMail -

Re: [Groff] Setting Text Along A Curve

2015-01-16 Thread Ted Harding
At the moment I'm too short of time to write a proper account, but will produce something later this weekend. Best wishes, Ted. --------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) Date: 16-Jan-2015 Time: 08:56:29 This message was sent by XFMail -

Re: [Groff] Proper Small Caps.

2015-01-18 Thread Ted Harding
.scsh]s'V\s[\\n[.cap.PS]] .char w\s[\\n[.sc.ps]]\Z'W'\h'\\n[.scsh]s'W\s[\\n[.cap.PS]] .char x\s[\\n[.sc.ps]]\Z'X'\h'\\n[.scsh]s'X\s[\\n[.cap.PS]] .char y\s[\\n[.sc.ps]]\Z'Y'\h'\\n[.scsh]s'Y\s[\\n[.cap.PS]] .char z\s[\\n[.sc.ps]]\Z'Z'\h'\\n[.scsh]s'Z\s[\\n[.cap.PS]] .char \(i. \s[\\n[.sc.ps]]\Z'I'\h'\\n[.scsh]s'I\s[\\n[.cap.PS]] .. .de /smallcaps .\"\c .rchar a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z \(i. .rr .sc.ps .rr .cap.PS .rr .scsh .. .smallcaps Here Is An Example Of Smallcaps ./smallcaps .\"## Note the over-printing to slightly "fatten" the reduced-size capitals. NB That this is oriented towards PS output! Best wishes to all, Ted. - E-Mail: (Ted Harding) Date: 18-Jan-2015 Time: 12:22:07 This message was sent by XFMail -

Re: [Groff] Setting Text Along A Curve

2015-01-18 Thread Ted Harding
also from Adobe themselves as a zip file at: http://partners.adobe.com/public/developer/en/ps/sdk/sample/BlueBook.zip (according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PostScript -- see under "External Links"). (And I've only just started on writing an account of this sort of thing in groff -- I'l

Re: [Groff] Blast from the past

2015-02-09 Thread Ted Harding
.pdf > > -- > Peter Schaffter > http://www.schaffter.ca Wonderful! Thank you, Peter! And I particularly love the (forward looking?) line on the title page: "Approved for public release; distribution unlimited" Best wishes, Ted. -----------

[Groff] pic: nasty little trap in function!

2015-03-02 Thread Ted Harding
which then came out right. I can't think by what logic pic produces "15 + d2r(0.5*i)", but I'm passing this on in case it is of use or interest to any of you! Best wishes to all, Ted. - E-Mail: (Ted Harding) Date: 02-Mar-2015 Time: 21:21:57 This message was sent by XFMail -

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