Hello fellow g'roffers,
I use the ms.tmac macros as a "lightweight" and focused alternative to the full
fledged me.tmac. On a sidenode, I'm rather new to groff, so if someone could
correct me on that assumption that me is nothing but a completer version of ms,
please do so.
My issue is that I
Dear GRoffers,
I just have a simple question to save me the unessary effort to
write it myself if someone has already written it:
Is there something like latex' "underbrace"/"overbrace" in groff/eqn or
has someone written a macro for it already? I really miss that feature
because it's a pretty co
Hello,
according to man eqn an ellipsis of three subsequent dots will be
replaced by a real ellipsis, whereas to get three centered dots one
should use cdots.
However when I enter ... I get cdots and I wouldn't know how to get a
real ellipsis, since there does not appear to be an ellipsis glyph in
Joined :) I'm new to Groff but I can honestly say that few
programs/packages impressed me as much as Groff. It's great to see how
it's moved forward that actively. Cheers!
regards,
Cedric
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 12:32:55PM -0500, Peter Schaffter wrote:
> Werner --
>
> On Fri, Dec 31, 2010, Werne
Dito
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 04:25:12PM +0100, Tadziu Hoffmann wrote:
>
> > Output see screenshot and attached PDF. The line above the
> > sqrt-sign seems to start about one em left to the place it
> > should start.
>
> On my computer your PDF displays correctly, with both
> ghostscript as well
I'd like to suggest that a documentation for EQN is implemented in
groff. Currently, there is only a very short manualy which describes
differences between Groff and Roff EQN. For a useful you have too google
for the original UNIX manpages which are, by the way, only hosted very
sparely over the in
Thank you, I've already (after I sent the mail) found the "original
papers", it didn't cross my mind that those could be considered
official references.
They might mention the Nabla and several other features but then,
again, they lack a lot of the rest of EQN (or only of GRoff EQN?).
Either way,
Hi Werner,
what would you require? If I write a manpage which merges the content of
the original UNIX manpage, the GRoff manpage and the missing parts from
the original paper, could you include it in the package (assuming you
are okay with the quality)?
Thanks! -- Cedric
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at
Hi, can I still contribute through a complete manpage? Meaning I take
the current Groff EQN manpage and add (with my own words) what is
missing as for the traditional Roff EQN commands and the shortcuts such
as del/grad. I'd really dislike to see you doing this all on your own
without having contri
My last suggestion was perhaps a very stupid one. I just realized that
Roff is maybe not safe to be run from an untrusted source. Please
consider it never said.
Hi, on-list, I don't have to be ashamed of admitting that I thought I
knew EQN but only now I found out that there is L and I in certain macro
packages :)
I'm a little bit wondering about your extensive use of spaces "~" and
"^". If I'm allowed to give you my input on that:
I have never used them
Hello,
I'd like to know whether it's possible to
a.) Set the overall paper/page size of, for example DVI, in the source
itsself
and/or
b.) Set different sizes for different pages.
In the infopage on groff and the manpage on groff_tmac there are
references to a string variable "paper" that a ma
Hello Werner,
thank you very much for your reply! I think I don't really understand
the difference between "papersize" and "physical paper dimensions". I
don't see how the two could possibly be different, is this something
that has do with devices that are not DVI? If I think of a DVI/PDF I
imagin
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 05:57:24PM +0100, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
>
> > I think I don't really understand the difference between "papersize"
> > and "physical paper dimensions".
>
> The logical paper dimensions within groff are set with .ll and .pl.
> However, this doesn't take into account how lar
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 07:02:29PM +0100, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
> >> The logical paper dimensions within groff are set with .ll and .pl.
> >> However, this doesn't take into account how large the `real' paper
> >> is – you can say
> >>
> >> .ll 200c
> >> .pl 300in
> >>
> >> and groff is still
I should add: I read that passing -p to grops can change the paper size,
so PS must support it. I wonder though whether it supports setting it
throught the .device command or another "raw passthrough" command.
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 07:16:08PM +0100, Cedric Sodhi wrote:
> On Wed, Ja
Thank you, I'll put it on my todo list together with the EQN manpage.
But as with the latter it could take a while before I get arround to do
it. And first I have to understand how exactly .device works.
So far I've understood that .device is a native roff macro that passes
its argument through to
Hello, I just have a small question out of curiousity, that is whether
there is any intrinsic difference between roff and texinfo.
I understand that both are elibible for writing documents, including
figures, writing macros therein and writing mathematical formula.
Is there any noteworthy differe
Thank you very much Werner!
Cedric
On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 05:57:47PM +0200, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
>
> > Hello, I just have a small question out of curiousity, that is
> > whether there is any intrinsic difference between roff and texinfo.
>
> Not really, I think. Theoretically, it should be p
Hello everyone,
apologies for such a trivial question in advance.
I'm usually using ms for simple papers (mom seems a little "big" for the
job and for I like simplicty I hence use groff_ms) and I wonder how I
would embed a centered figure with a subtitle (possibly handled by
refer), looking like
Schaffter wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 05, 2012, Cedric Sodhi wrote:
> > While .PSPIC allows me to insert a postscript picture and .KS allows me
> > to use a keep, using both, the .PSPIC inside of the keep results in the
> > picture being moved out of the frame towards the right.
> &
Hello everyone,
how do you usually achieve Blackboard Bold ("R" for real numbers, "N"
for natural, and so forth)?
regards,
Cedric
ar 06, 2012 at 05:23:57PM +, Denis M. Wilson wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> On Tue, 6 Mar 2012 14:33:04 +0100
> Cedric Sodhi wrote:
>
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > how do you usually achieve Blackboard Bold ("R" for real numbers, "N"
> > for
Are there way to generally place an image different from filling a whole
page width?
By generically I mean doing so by using PSPIC and without particular
knowledge of the sourrounding text and the image's dimension.
By differently I mean, for example, float the image in the text, put
multiple ima
3.2012 um 13:08 schrieb Cedric Sodhi:
>
> > Are there way to generally place an image different from filling a
> > whole
> > page width?
> >
> > By generically I mean doing so by using PSPIC and without particular
> > knowledge of the sourrounding text and th
Thanks Ted, one can really rely on you guys! I'ven't read the other
thread Patrik mentioned, yet, but your suggestion sounds reasonable easy
so I'll try it out right now.
Cedric
On Wed, Mar 07, 2012 at 06:09:18PM -, Ted Harding wrote:
> On 07-Mar-2012 Cedric Sodhi wrote:
&g
Hello, one thing I've been struggling with for a long time and regularly
is that error messages are absolutely non-telling, at least for me.
Eventually, I can't help it but wonder whether I am the only person
having a problem with this.
I thought, that maybe, there are two ways to at least migitat
Hello,
I recently decided to use mm instead of ms because it appeared that mm
offered far more but I'm having a hard time getting it to do what I
want.
With ms things were relatively easy and straight forward. me on the
other hand appears to be rather complicated and I seem not to find a
document
usly, the latter worked in that the argument was henceforth
interpreted as one, but it resulted in stray, literal "":
My Appendix""
Perhaps this is not even related to mm, but I would appreciate it if
someone could shed light on this behaviour.
Thank you,
Cedric
On Tue, Ap
Schindler wrote:
> Hello Cedric,
>
> Am 17.04.2012 um 12:30 schrieb Cedric Sodhi:
>
> > me on the other hand appears to be rather complicated and I seem not
> > to find a documentation describing me as a whole.
>
>
> Regarding documentation: This is c
> As for the ß character, try using the -k option to invoke the preconv(1)
> preprocessor. That should also fix any other non-ASCII characters (vowels
> with umlauts, for example) as well.
Hello Larry,
I'm already using preconv.
-- Cedric
Hello, I wanted to bring up a problem that I had mentioned a while ago
[1] but to which I've found not satisfactory solution, whatsoever, yet.
How does Escaping actually work in Groff? Is what I said in [1] true and
there is in fact no consistent method and rather, quotes cannot be
escaped like one
Hi Clarke, thanks for your reply, but this is in fact not knew to me. If
you read [1] you'll see that the problem is about passing a single
string to a macro if that string contains spaces.
On Sat, Sep 01, 2012 at 09:44:53AM -0600, Clarke Echols wrote:
> On 09/01/2012 09:12 AM, Cedric Sod
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