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Hi Xiyue, Ihor, and Jeremy,
I stumbled across this thread while researching problems have
encountered with groff, which I maintain for the GNU Project.
At 2024-02-29T23:51:29-0800, Xiyue Deng wrote:
> "m
Hi Deri,
At 2024-12-18T16:51:59+, Deri wrote:
> Import is not ready for primetime, its not finished. It was originally
> conceived for non-standard import of images. Typically where you want
> the rendered image to be a precise size (i.e. fill to the edges of an
> A4 page), ignoring the XY rat
Hi Deri,
At 2024-12-18T17:41:59+, Deri wrote:
> On Wednesday, 18 December 2024 01:07:45 GMT G. Branden Robinson wrote:
> > This is an extremely helpful presentation. I have some questions.
> >
> > 1. Where was the foregoing distinction documented in, say, the
> > groff 1.22.3 era?
> >
Hi Deri,
At 2024-12-18T11:10:52+, Deri wrote:
> I wrote "pdf: pdfpic" to mimic the behaviour of .PSPIC, render image
> down from current point, not realising (until now!) that "ps: import"
> renders the image up from the current point. This difference in
> behaviour is somewhat masked because
At 2024-12-18T20:28:17+, Deri wrote:
> On Wednesday, 18 December 2024 18:12:01 GMT G. Branden Robinson wrote:
> > [1] You already know what's coming. My hobnail boots and swagger
> > stick say "you get code points 0x20 to 0x7E in your
> > uninterpreted stream and nothing else".
>
> And
On Wednesday, 18 December 2024 01:07:45 GMT G. Branden Robinson wrote:
> This is an extremely helpful presentation. I have some questions.
>
> 1. Where was the foregoing distinction documented in, say, the groff
> 1.22.3 era?
>
> 2. How confident are you that these distinctions were consci
On Wednesday, 18 December 2024 12:36:13 GMT Tadziu Hoffmann wrote:
> > I wrote "pdf: pdfpic" to mimic the behaviour of .PSPIC,
> > render image down from current point, [...]
> > The above difference means this works for pdf:-
> >
> > .char \[gnu] \v'-9p'\X'pdf: pdfpic GNU-head-small.pdf -L 10p'
On Wednesday, 18 December 2024 00:14:38 GMT Tadziu Hoffmann wrote:
> If the former, then it seems a pretty roundabout way of achieving
> the purpose. For example, using the ps device, the following is
> sufficient:
>
> .char \[gnu] \X'ps: import GNU-head-small.ps 0 0 25 22 1'\h'10p'
> A G
On Wednesday, 18 December 2024 15:29:43 GMT G. Branden Robinson wrote:
> Could the existing (but undocumented) "pdf: import" be changed in the
> same way, to emphasize the equivalence of the features?
>
> https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/groff.git/tree/src/devices/gropdf/gropdf.p
> l?h=1.23.0#n11
> I wrote "pdf: pdfpic" to mimic the behaviour of .PSPIC,
> render image down from current point, [...]
> The above difference means this works for pdf:-
>
> .char \[gnu] \v'-9p'\X'pdf: pdfpic GNU-head-small.pdf -L 10p'\h'10p'
> A GNU head \[gnu] image.
Thanks for the feedback! This solut
[self-correcting follow-up]
At 2024-12-18T20:00:53-0600, G. Branden Robinson wrote:
> Pro:
> * People may discover that quotation marks are properly available in
> the man(7) language, a fact that has been obscure for 45 years.
> (The `\*(lq` and `\*(rq` syntax has been available since day one
On Wednesday, 18 December 2024 18:12:01 GMT G. Branden Robinson wrote:
> Mmmm. Good objective for 1.25.
>
> Regards,
> Branden
>
> [1] You already know what's coming. My hobnail boots and swagger stick
> say "you get code points 0x20 to 0x7E in your uninterpreted stream
> and nothing el
On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 8:28 AM G. Branden Robinson
wrote:
> I don't feel I have sufficiently broad knowledge of what man-parsing
> tools are out there besides *roffs and mandoc(1).
Fair enough, and perhaps a decent reason on its own to be conservative
with language additions.
> Plan 9 troff is
Hi Dave,
On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 02:48:35PM -0600, Dave Kemper wrote:
> One final point unrelated to the macro names:
>
> > B2. It would be trivial to support the British, who use the wrong
> > quotation marks^W^W^W^W^Wdrive on the wrong side of the
> > road^W^W^W^W^W^W^W^Whave a differen
Hi Dave & Alex,
I started out off-topic and then wandered back onto it. To remedy
that, I've moved the on-topic part to the top of this message. Replies
to your messages follow below.
There seems to be no objection to the core proposal (so far). Nobody
addressed the initial-word-hyphenation-su
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