Hi Alex,
At 2023-10-25T21:38:59+0200, Alejandro Colomar wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 01:54:24PM -0500, G. Branden Robinson wrote:
> > diff --git a/man2/open.2 b/man2/open.2
> > index 4c921723c..6603dfdff 100644
> > --- a/man2/open.2
> > +++ b/man2/open.2
> > @@ -82,8 +82,13 @@ .SH DESCRIPTION
Hi Branden,
On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 07:58:35AM -0500, G. Branden Robinson wrote:
[...]
>
> And mdoc _does_ manage to make `\c`
> almost(?) totally unnecessary--at the cost of a weighty internal
> recursive macro reprocessing system that no other *roff package is known
> to implement.
>
> (This i
At 2023-10-25T16:20:27+0200, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote:
> What you did above is not the step by step way I posted to reproduce
> the bug. Of course it won't be helpful if you overlook it.
You've already gotten what I would have thought to be a sufficient
explanation of the diagnostic messag
At 2023-10-26T16:12:36+0200, Alejandro Colomar wrote:
> Regarding PP, LP, and P, what's the history of them? Why do we have
> the 3? I'm willing to reduce them to just one.
I invite Doug McIlroy to go on record, but my surmise is that they were
introduced as crutches for people already familiar
Hi Branden,
On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 09:51:40AM -0500, G. Branden Robinson wrote:
> At 2023-10-26T16:12:36+0200, Alejandro Colomar wrote:
> > Regarding PP, LP, and P, what's the history of them? Why do we have
> > the 3? I'm willing to reduce them to just one.
>
> I invite Doug McIlroy to go on
On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 09:35:07AM -0500, G. Branden Robinson wrote:
> At 2023-10-25T16:20:27+0200, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote:
> > What you did above is not the step by step way I posted to reproduce
> > the bug. Of course it won't be helpful if you overlook it.
>
> You've already gotten wh
At 2023-10-26T16:58:13+0200, Alejandro Colomar wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 09:51:40AM -0500, G. Branden Robinson wrote:
> > At 2023-10-26T16:12:36+0200, Alejandro Colomar wrote:
> > > Regarding PP, LP, and P, what's the history of them? Why do we
> > > have the 3? I'm willing to reduce them
Hi Walter,
At 2023-10-26T17:21:21+0200, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote:
> Ah, now I understand where's the problem, as it happens to me, groff
> 1.22.4 also ingores what you're explaining.
For me, the output doesn't change, but groff 1.22.4 doesn't emit a
diagnostic.
But that's not a surprise.
[self-correcting follow-up]
At 2023-10-26T09:51:42-0500, G. Branden Robinson wrote:
> In ms(7), `LP` sets a paragraph that is left-aligned, and `PP` sets
> one with a first-line indentation.
>
> In man(7), all (ordinary) paragraphs behave analogously to ms(7)'s
> `PP`. A first-line indentation i
Hi Branden and Alejandro,
G. Branden Robinson wrote on Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 04:54:21AM -0500:
> At 2023-10-24T02:13:34+0200, Ingo Schwarze wrote:
>> 5. On top of all that, i have a hard time to think of any macro
>> that has a more wicked failure mode than .TQ in case the
>> formatter do
Hi Branden and Alejandro,
G. Branden Robinson wrote on Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 10:28:13AM -0500:
> At 2023-10-26T16:58:13+0200, Alejandro Colomar wrote:
>> On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 09:51:40AM -0500, G. Branden Robinson wrote:
>>> At 2023-10-26T16:12:36+0200, Alejandro Colomar wrote:
Regarding PP
Hi Branden,
On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 11:09:23AM -0500, G. Branden Robinson wrote:
> [self-correcting follow-up]
>
> At 2023-10-26T09:51:42-0500, G. Branden Robinson wrote:
> > In ms(7), `LP` sets a paragraph that is left-aligned, and `PP` sets
> > one with a first-line indentation.
> >
> > In man
Hi Branden,
On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 10:28:13AM -0500, G. Branden Robinson wrote:
> At 2023-10-26T16:58:13+0200, Alejandro Colomar wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 09:51:40AM -0500, G. Branden Robinson wrote:
> > > At 2023-10-26T16:12:36+0200, Alejandro Colomar wrote:
> > > > Regarding PP, LP, an
Hi Ingo,
On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 07:52:13PM +0200, Ingo Schwarze wrote:
>
> I consider this a bikeshed discussion.
Sure. But someone has to design the bike parkings. I find a lot awful
bike parkings that harm bike's wheels, and have to park it in a sign or
tree nearby.
>
> Given that Branden
On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 06:37:58PM +0200, Ingo Schwarze wrote:
> That is completely true, and my point 5 is completely bogus. This is
> embarrassing, in particular since it also tainted the commit message.
> I'm not completely sure how the wrong idea entered my head, possibly by
> confusing .TP an
Hi Branden and Alejandro,
G. Branden Robinson wrote on Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 07:58:35AM -0500:
> At 2023-10-25T21:38:59+0200, Alejandro Colomar wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 01:54:24PM -0500, G. Branden Robinson wrote:
>>> diff --git a/man2/open.2 b/man2/open.2
>>> index 4c921723c..6603dfdff 1
Hi Ingo,
[...ingoring the battle in which I don't want to participate...]
[My position here is that man(7) has problems, but I fear that jumping
to mdoc(7) *may* be worse; I can't know before jumping, which is a
problem. Maybe if some pages are added written in mdoc(7), I get used
to it and start
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