Re: One Page Dungeon Layout in groff?

2022-08-14 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Laurens, > Here's my proof of concept: https://ttm.sh/qhr.png You might want to turn off the adjusting of space between words which is giving a straight edge to the end of lines: ‘.na’. This would remove the varying space before ‘Goblins’ and ‘Orcs’, which looks odd to me. A non-breaking spa

Re: One Page Dungeon Layout in groff?

2022-08-14 Thread Laurens Kils-Hütten
Am Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 12:25:31PM +0100 schrieb Ralph Corderoy: > You might want to turn off the adjusting of space [...] yay, will look into those spacing issues ... > You could play with setting a trap, sounds right up your street!, WHen > output reaches a vertical position with ‘.wh’ to remo

Re: One Page Dungeon Layout in groff?

2022-08-14 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Laurens, > I'll lo ok at setting up some traps :D The tutorial at the end of Ossanna and Kernighan's CSTR 54 uses ‘.wh’. https://troff.org/54.pdf > Is there a way to preserve the extra wide page offset while next to > the image ? The regular paragraph macros seem to reset PO whenever > they g

Standardize roff (was: *roff `\~` support)

2022-08-14 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, DJ Chase wrote on Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 05:27:34PM +: > Have we ever considered a de jure *roff standard? No, i think that would be pure madness given the amount of working time available in any of the roff projects. I expect the amount of effort required to be significantly larger than

Re: *roff `\~` support (was: [PATCH 4/6] xattr.7: wfix)

2022-08-14 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Branden, G. Branden Robinson wrote on Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 11:23:11PM -0500: > At 2022-08-12T16:30:01+0200, Ingo Schwarze wrote: >> There are people using Plan 9 for practical work though, they have >> even occasionally posted on the groff and mandoc lists, so that is a >> bit more of a proble

Re: Standardize roff (was: *roff `\~` support)

2022-08-14 Thread DJ Chase
On Sun Aug 14, 2022 at 9:56 AM EDT, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > Hi, > > DJ Chase wrote on Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 05:27:34PM +: > > > Have we ever considered a de jure *roff standard? > > No, i think that would be pure madness given the amount of working > time available in any of the roff projects. >

Re: Standardize roff (was: *roff `\~` support)

2022-08-14 Thread Alejandro Colomar
Hi, On 8/14/22 16:49, DJ Chase wrote: On Sun Aug 14, 2022 at 9:56 AM EDT, Ingo Schwarze wrote: Hi, DJ Chase wrote on Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 05:27:34PM +: Have we ever considered a de jure *roff standard? No, i think that would be pure madness given the amount of working time available in

Re: mom problem

2022-08-14 Thread Peter Schaffter
Ulrich -- On Sun, Aug 14, 2022, Ulrich Lauther wrote: > I found the culprit. It is in my macro NumberPages that you see > at the top of my example file. Only if I call this macro, the > problem occurs. > .MAC NumberPages END > .PRINTSTYLE TYPESET > .HEADERS OFF > .FOOTERS OFF > .PAGINATE > .PAG

Re: Standardize roff (was: *roff `\~` support)

2022-08-14 Thread DJ Chase
On Sun Aug 14, 2022 at 12:32 PM EDT, Alejandro Colomar wrote: > On 8/14/22 16:49, DJ Chase wrote: > > On Sun Aug 14, 2022 at 9:56 AM EDT, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > >> You appear to massively overrate the importance end-users > >> typically attribute to standardization. > > > > That’s probably because

Re: *roff `\~` support (was: [PATCH 4/6] xattr.7: wfix)

2022-08-14 Thread G. Branden Robinson
At 2022-08-14T16:15:54+0200, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > > I also have a PR pending with Illumos. > > https://github.com/illumos/illumos-gate/pull/83 > > Illumos isn't doing development on GitHub. Yeah, I promptly got a lengthy follow-up from a member of the core team pointing me to even more lengthy

Re: Standardize roff (was: *roff `\~` support)

2022-08-14 Thread G. Branden Robinson
At 2022-08-14T14:49:10+, DJ Chase wrote: > On Sun Aug 14, 2022 at 9:56 AM EDT, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > > DJ Chase wrote on Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 05:27:34PM +: > > > > > Have we ever considered a de jure *roff standard? > > > > No, i think that would be pure madness given the amount of working

Re: Standardize roff (was: *roff `\~` support)

2022-08-14 Thread DJ Chase
On Sun Aug 14, 2022 at 6:35 PM EDT, G. Branden Robinson wrote: > At 2022-08-14T14:49:10+, DJ Chase wrote: > > On Sun Aug 14, 2022 at 9:56 AM EDT, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > > > DJ Chase wrote on Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 05:27:34PM +: > > > > > > > Have we ever considered a de jure *roff standard? >

Re: Standardize roff (was: *roff `\~` support)

2022-08-14 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Ingo Schwarze writes: Hi, DJ Chase wrote on Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 05:27:34PM +: > Have we ever considered a de jure *roff standard? No, i think that would be pure madness given the amount of working time available in any of the roff projects. I expect the amount of effort required to be s