[Groff] [Heirloom] Double word space after :

2014-11-12 Thread Carsten Kunze
Hello, by default Heirloom troff inserts a double word space if a line ends with ":". Is this correct US English typography? Carsten

[Groff] Typo in HTML documentation ยง 5.7?

2014-11-12 Thread Carsten Kunze
Hello, maybe there is a typo in "5.7 Manipulating Filling and Adjusting" section "Register: \n[.sss]". In the sentence "Note that the \h escape produces unbreakable space." the "h" maybe should actually be a space (in the context of that section). Carsten

Re: [Groff] [Heirloom] Double word space after :

2014-11-12 Thread Peter Schaffter
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014, Carsten Kunze wrote: > Hello, > > by default Heirloom troff inserts a double word space if a line > ends with ":". Is this correct US English typography? For typeset copy with proportionally-spaced fonts, no. For monospaced fonts (terminal), yes, but only if sentences are

Re: [Groff] [Heirloom] Double word space after :

2014-11-12 Thread James K. Lowden
On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 18:08:12 +0100 (CET) Carsten Kunze wrote: > by default Heirloom troff inserts a double word space if a line ends > with ":". Is this correct US English typography? It is not incorrect. Typographical convention has varied over time and treatment of the colon along with it.

Re: [Groff] condition: OR of two string comparisons

2014-11-12 Thread hohe72
Ralph Corderoy wrote (Fri, 07 Nov 2014 16:16:38 +): > Hi Holger, > > > Due to the 'Troff User's Manual' page 24 and the man 7 groff > > (missing a negation) > > What's missing? "I" -- I was missing .. ;) > > the statement: > > > > .if 'str1'str2' anything > > > > cannot handle regular

[Groff] groff_char.man won't work with old tbl(1) incarnations (1.19.2 in particular)

2014-11-12 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
Hello, imho that is really annoying since some systems which never updated from 1.19.2 because of licensing reasons and have not yet moved to mandoc(1) are not capable to display the manual correctly via man(1) out of the box. And it is completely unnecessary since it seems Werner has designed the

Re: [Groff] [Heirloom] Double word space after :

2014-11-12 Thread Carsten Kunze
Peter Schaffter wrote: > For typeset copy with proportionally-spaced fonts, no. For > monospaced fonts (terminal), yes, but only if sentences are > separated by two wordspaces as well. That is new to me. I thought that only one space is used after a colon. So now what about the behavior of gr

Re: [Groff] [Heirloom] Double word space after :

2014-11-12 Thread Carsten Kunze
"James K. Lowden" wrote: > It is not incorrect. Typographical convention has varied over time and > treatment of the colon along with it. So, "correct" is hard to pin > down. > > I was taught 500 moons ago that a colon may be followed by one or two > spaces depending on purpose. Examples:

[Groff] mdoc: Additional "," from .Ex

2014-11-12 Thread Carsten Kunze
Hello, the mdoc macros display for .Ex -std uuencode uudecode b64encode b64decode EXIT STATUS The uuencode, uudecode, b64encode, and b64decode utilities [...] I think the "," before "and" is not intended. Carsten

Re: [Groff] [Heirloom] Double word space after :

2014-11-12 Thread Tadziu Hoffmann
> That is new to me. I thought that only one space is > used after a colon. Why do people always think that space should exist only in integer multiples of a basic space quantum? How about 1.5 times the wordspace after a period that ends a sentence, 1.2 times the wordspace after a colon? Or some

Re: [Groff] [Heirloom] Double word space after :

2014-11-12 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> That is new to me. I thought that only one space is >> used after a colon. > > Why do people always think that space should exist > only in integer multiples of a basic space quantum? This is what people used with old typewriters. > How about 1.5 times the wordspace after a period that ends

Re: [Groff] mdoc: Additional "," from .Ex

2014-11-12 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> the mdoc macros display for > > .Ex -std uuencode uudecode b64encode b64decode > > EXIT STATUS > The uuencode, uudecode, b64encode, and b64decode utilities [...] > > I think the "," before "and" is not intended. It is intended. There are various styles when to use a comma, and one of t

Re: [Groff] mdoc: Additional "," from .Ex

2014-11-12 Thread Clarke Echols
On 11/12/2014 02:51 PM, Carsten Kunze wrote: Hello, the mdoc macros display for .Ex -std uuencode uudecode b64encode b64decode EXIT STATUS The uuencode, uudecode, b64encode, and b64decode utilities [...] I think the "," before "and" is not intended. Carsten The comma before 'and'

Re: [Groff] [Heirloom] Double word space after :

2014-11-12 Thread Clarke Echols
On 11/12/2014 03:02 PM, Werner LEMBERG wrote: That is new to me. I thought that only one space is used after a colon. Why do people always think that space should exist only in integer multiples of a basic space quantum? This is what people used with old typewriters. How about 1.5 time

Re: [Groff] [Heirloom] Double word space after :

2014-11-12 Thread Carsten Kunze
Werner LEMBERG wrote: > > How about 1.5 times the wordspace after a period that ends a > > sentence, 1.2 times the wordspace after a colon? Or some other > > fraction? > > groff's `.ss' command allows this. But groff does not distinguish between an input line that ends with a word and an inpu

Re: [Groff] [Heirloom] Double word space after :

2014-11-12 Thread Clarke Echols
On 11/12/2014 03:13 PM, Carsten Kunze wrote: Werner LEMBERG wrote: How about 1.5 times the wordspace after a period that ends a sentence, 1.2 times the wordspace after a colon? Or some other fraction? groff's `.ss' command allows this. But groff does not distinguish between an input lin

Re: [Groff] mdoc: Additional "," from .Ex

2014-11-12 Thread Clarke Echols
On 11/12/2014 03:00 PM, Werner LEMBERG wrote: the mdoc macros display for .Ex -std uuencode uudecode b64encode b64decode EXIT STATUS The uuencode, uudecode, b64encode, and b64decode utilities [...] I think the "," before "and" is not intended. It is intended. There are various sty

Re: [Groff] mdoc: Additional "," from .Ex

2014-11-12 Thread Jones, Larry
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_comma -Larry Jones -Original Message- From: groff-bounces+lawrence.jones=siemens@gnu.org [mailto:groff-bounces+lawrence.jones=siemens@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Carsten Kunze Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 4:52 PM To: groff@gnu.org Subject: [Gr

Re: [Groff] [Heirloom] Double word space after :

2014-11-12 Thread Carsten Kunze
Clarke Echols wrote: > Only input lines that end with an end-of-sentence character > (including colon) is treated other than as a normal single-space- > between-words situation -- or at least that's my understanding. Ok, .cflags 1 sets it. I didn't get it on first reading of the documenta

Re: [Groff] mdoc: Additional "," from .Ex

2014-11-12 Thread Keith Marshall
On 12/11/14 21:51, Carsten Kunze wrote: > Hello, > > the mdoc macros display for > > .Ex -std uuencode uudecode b64encode b64decode > > EXIT STATUS > The uuencode, uudecode, b64encode, and b64decode utilities [...] > > I think the "," before "and" is not intended. It is both intended, and