[Groff] html to roff

2014-09-02 Thread Tadziu Hoffmann
I wanted to have a paper hardcopy of a (simple) web page to hand out to new people here at work, but I wasn't happy with the results from either Firefox or wkhtmltopdf. (Due to my viewing preferences, the output from Firefox was completely unusable [why aren't there different settings for screen

Re: [Groff] What is the current state of Unicode support in Groff?

2014-09-02 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi again Mike, > It helps a lot with reading UTF-8 if the output devices support the > runes. I should have said, for PostScript I think that can be a problem with "symbol" fonts being needed? Others will know more, I'm sure. Brian wrote: > It all worked pretty well, though there were a lot of

Re: [Groff] What is the current state of Unicode support in Groff?

2014-09-02 Thread Tadziu Hoffmann
> I should have said, for PostScript I think that can be a > problem with "symbol" fonts being needed? Traditionally, Postscript is mostly agnostic with regard to predefined encodings. Glyphs normally have human-readable names, and the standard "show" operator works with strings, which are simpl

[Groff] Extending refer

2014-09-02 Thread Bernd Warken
The following extensions of refer exist in Heirloom and the known refer history. 1) `refer.man' cites under `FILES': file.i Index files. But I couldn't find this file type and no documentation for them. 2) `refer.man' cites under `FILES': /usr/dict/papers/Ind Default databa

Re: [Groff] Extending refer

2014-09-02 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> The following extensions of refer exist in Heirloom and the known > refer history. > > 1) `refer.man' cites under `FILES': > file.i Index files. > > But I couldn't find this file type and no documentation for them. Those files are created by `indxbib'. > 2) `refer.man' cites

Re: [Groff] Extending refer

2014-09-02 Thread Bernd Warken
I added a TODO part in the `groff' source file `PROJECTS'. > > /usr/dict/papers/Ind Default database. > > > > That file does not exist. The directory for such a file should > > be in the groff directory under /usr/local/share. > > Mhmm. Basically, you are right. However, given that groff's

Re: [Groff] Extending refer

2014-09-02 Thread Carsten Kunze
> I will right `addlib', but that will take some time. Would it be > possible and reasonable to use the already existing Heirloom programs? > Maybe some help from the Heirloom team might be very helpful. They could be checked for portability, made -Wall clean etc. But how about the license? Un

Re: [Groff] Extending refer

2014-09-02 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I will right `addlib', but that will take some time. Would it be > possible and reasonable to use the already existing Heirloom > programs? Maybe some help from the Heirloom team might be very > helpful. For license reasons, this wouldn't be possible. On the other hand: Why not simply point

Re: [Groff] Extending refer

2014-09-02 Thread Bernd Warken
> Von: "Werner LEMBERG" > > > > I will right `addlib', but that will take some time. Would it be > > possible and reasonable to use the already existing Heirloom > > programs? Maybe some help from the Heirloom team might be very > > helpful. > > For license reasons, this wouldn't be possible.

Re: [Groff] [groff] 01/01: In groff source top directory add Emacs settings for most text files.

2014-09-02 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Bernd, Bernd Warken wrote on Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 05:03:50PM +: > commit fe9c3ec1ad398f07d89da432b9a5c8e777b517df > Author: Bernd Warken > Date: Tue Sep 2 19:03:15 2014 +0200 > > In groff source top directory add Emacs settings for most text files. > --- > BUG-REPORT |6

Re: [Groff] [groff] 01/01: In groff source top directory add Emacs settings for most text files.

2014-09-02 Thread Bernd Warken
> Von: "Ingo Schwarze" > > Bernd Warken wrote on Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 05:03:50PM +: > > In groff source top directory add Emacs settings for most text files. > > Almost all of this commit seems wrong, please revert. The file addition seem to be reasonable, why not use them? > The foll

Re: [Groff] [groff] 01/02: All Makefile* files: add Emacs setting and GPL2 license (only if lacking)

2014-09-02 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Bernd, Bernd Warken wrote on Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 09:10:32PM +: > commit 70f06155a3017b7302124af1949ef078e4035e53 > Author: Bernd Warken > Date: Tue Sep 2 23:03:14 2014 +0200 I guess there isn't much wrong with adding editor-specific annotations to Makefiles if that editor is what the

Re: [Groff] [groff] 01/01: In groff source top directory add Emacs settings for most text files.

2014-09-02 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> The following files are not UTF-8, bus US-ASCII encoded: > > BUG-REPORT > FDL > INSTALL > INSTALL.REPO > INSTALL.gen > MANIFEST > MORE.STUFF > PROBLEMS > PROJECTS > README > README.MinGW Yep. An indication of the encoding makes only sense if there are actually non-ASCII characters. > In addi

Re: [Groff] [groff] 01/01: refer: try to create a groff directory for refer under /usr/local/share, does not work so far

2014-09-02 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> configure => autom4te.cache/output.0 | 1364 > +- > autom4te.cache/requests | 78 ++ > autom4te.cache/traces.0 | 951 Uh, oh, `autom4te.cache' stuff should definitely *not* go into the repository! Werne

Re: [Groff] [groff] 01/01: In groff source top directory add Emacs settings for most text files.

2014-09-02 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Bernd, Bernd Warken wrote on Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 12:40:19AM +0200: >> Von: "Ingo Schwarze" >>> Bernd Warken wrote on Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 05:03:50PM +: >> Almost all of this commit seems wrong, please revert. > The file addition seem to be reasonable, why not use them? Not sure what yo

Re: [Groff] [groff] 01/01: refer: try to create a groff directory for refer under /usr/local/share, does not work so far

2014-09-02 Thread Bernd Warken
> Von: "Werner LEMBERG" > > > configure => autom4te.cache/output.0 | 1364 > > +- > > autom4te.cache/requests | 78 ++ > > autom4te.cache/traces.0 | 951 > > Uh, oh, `autom4te.cache' stuff should definitely *n

Re: [Groff] [groff] 01/01: In groff source top directory add Emacs settings for most text files.

2014-09-02 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Each file should have a list of copyright years. A year should be > in that list if and only if the current version of the file contains > a copyrightable amount of text that was origininally written in that > year. This is not what the FSF recommends. From https://www.gnu.org/prep/maintain/h

Re: [Groff] [groff] 01/01: In groff source top directory add Emacs settings for most text files.

2014-09-02 Thread Bernd Warken
> Von: "Ingo Schwarze" > > Bernd Warken wrote on Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 12:40:19AM +0200: > > >> Almost all of this commit seems wrong, please revert. > > > The file addition seem to be reasonable, why not use them? > > Not sure what you are talking about, it doesn't seem to me > as if this commi

Re: [Groff] [groff] 01/01: refer: try to create a groff directory for refer under /usr/local/share, does not work so far

2014-09-02 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> Uh, oh, `autom4te.cache' stuff should definitely *not* go into the >> repository! > > With autoconf, the directory autom4te.cache will be created and does > not vanish even with .gitignmore. What is to be done? I usually remove `autom4te.cache' after running autoconf. In any case, it should

Re: [Groff] [groff] 01/01: In groff source top directory add Emacs settings for most text files.

2014-09-02 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Werner, Werner LEMBERG wrote on Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 12:50:35AM +0200: > Ingo Schwarze wrote: >> [...] Consequently, bumping the list of copyright years in such a >> case is a misrepresentation of the legal situation - unless you >> bumped based on some *other*, indeed copyrightable change, bu

[Groff] refer data directory does not work

2014-09-02 Thread Bernd Warken
I tried to let groff create a data directory for the `refer' databases. I changed aclocal.m4, Makefile.in, and configure.ac. Unfortunately, the `refer' data directory is not created by `make install'. I did such creations already several times, but I lost the knowledge how that worked. Bernd Wark

Re: [Groff] [groff] 01/01: In groff source top directory add Emacs settings for most text files.

2014-09-02 Thread Bernd Warken
> Von: "Werner LEMBERG" > > > >> So it's the package that counts. > > > > So you propose something like 1989-2014 or 1993-2014 for all groff > > source files and the years should be enlarged to 2015 at the end of > > this year? > > I suggest that in a range -, should be the year in

[Groff] wrong email adress for me

2014-09-02 Thread Bernd Warken
I got several emails from the groff etc. mailing list. The adress bernd.war...@web.de # do not use this is only for my private usage, not for groff. My groff email adress is groff-bernd.warken...@web.de Please use this instead. Bernd Warken