Re: [Groff] Groff Digest, Vol 106, Issue 3

2013-07-28 Thread Tethys
Robert Marks writes: >Actually, how is troff pronounced? Troff? T-roff? >And groff? Hardly G-roff but possible. When I first encountered them in the '80s, they were pronounced n-roff and t-roff, so those names stuck and thus groff became g-roff when it came along a bit later. Tet

[Groff] need help with composite glyphs

2013-07-28 Thread Heinz-Jürgen Oertel
Hello this works \[u u0301] \[a u030A] but this \[u u030A] (u with a circle above) does not. It is what I currently need. Please help. It is a Czech word what I ned to write. -- mit freundlichen Grüßen Heinz-Jürgen Oertel signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message

Re: [Groff] need help with composite glyphs

2013-07-28 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi, > this works > \[u u0301] \[a u030A] > > but this > \[u u030A] (u with a circle above) > > does not. > It is what I currently need. Does this help? $ nroff <<<'X,u\[u030A],Y' | grep . X,ů,Y $ If not, a little example of what's working/failing, like I gave above, might make

Re: [Groff] need help with composite glyphs

2013-07-28 Thread Heinz-Jürgen Oertel
Am Sonntag 28 Juli 2013, 11:30:37 schrieb Ralph Corderoy: > Hi, > > > this works > > \[u u0301] \[a u030A] > > > > but this > > \[u u030A] (u with a circle above) > > > > does not. > > It is what I currently need. > > Does this help? > > $ nroff <<<'X,u\[u030A],Y' | grep . > X,ů,Y >

Re: [Groff] Groff Digest, Vol 106, Issue 3

2013-07-28 Thread Ali Gholami Rudi
Robert Marks wrote: > So, how is neatroff pronounced? > Neet-roff? Nia-troff? Nia-T-roff? I prefer neet-roff; it is easier to pronounce and underlines that the word neatroff is actually neat + troff. Ali

Re: [Groff] Groff Digest, Vol 106, Issue 3

2013-07-28 Thread Clarke Echols
Back in the 1980s, I knew an engineer at Bell Labs who used troff and he always pronounced it tee-roff. All of the people at HP who used it also pronounced it the same way. Likewise, at HP, we always prounounced nroff as en-roff, so the logical way to pronounce groff would be gee-roff. I've nev

Re: [Groff] need help with composite glyphs

2013-07-28 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi, > $ nroff <<<'X,\[a u030A],Y' | grep . > X,å,Y > $ nroff <<<'X,\[u u030A],Y' | grep . > :1: warning: can't find special character `u0075_030A' > X,,Y > > If not absolutely necessary, I like to stay with my ISO 8859-1 (-15) > environment. Ah, that's your problem. ISO-8859-1 and -15 don't

Re: [Groff] need help with composite glyphs

2013-07-28 Thread Heinz-Jürgen Oertel
Am Sonntag 28 Juli 2013, 15:47:58 schrieb Ralph Corderoy: > Hi, > > > $ nroff <<<'X,\[a u030A],Y' | grep . > > X,å,Y > > $ nroff <<<'X,\[u u030A],Y' | grep . > > :1: warning: can't find special character `u0075_030A' > > X,,Y > > > > If not absolutely necessary, I like to stay with my ISO 8859-

Re: [Groff] need help with composite glyphs

2013-07-28 Thread James Cloos
> "HO" == Heinz-Jürgen Oertel writes: HO> If not absolutely necessary, I like to stay with my ISO 8859-1 (-15) environment. In a utf-8 locale, nroff defaults to the utf8 device, which is why the nroff example as written did not work for you. It seems that you need support for u0075_030A i

Re: [Groff] need help with composite glyphs

2013-07-28 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi, > > > $ nroff <<<'X,\[a u030A],Y' | grep . > > > X,å,Y > > > $ nroff <<<'X,\[u u030A],Y' | grep . > > > :1: warning: can't find special character `u0075_030A' > > > X,,Y > > > > > > If not absolutely necessary, I like to stay with my ISO 8859-1 (-15) > > > environment. > > > > Ah, that's

Re: [Groff] need help with composite glyphs

2013-07-28 Thread Heinz-Jürgen Oertel
Am Sonntag 28 Juli 2013, 13:53:33 schrieb James Cloos: > > "HO" == Heinz-Jürgen Oertel writes: > > HO> If not absolutely necessary, I like to stay with my ISO 8859-1 (-15) > environment. > > In a utf-8 locale, nroff defaults to the utf8 device, which is why the > nroff example as written d

Re: [Groff] need help with composite glyphs

2013-07-28 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> If I code the text with \[u u030A] I expect it to be in the PDF. This glyph is only contained in the URW fonts. For example, try this with the PDF backend: .fam U-T uring: \[u u030A] Werner

Re: [Groff] need help with composite glyphs

2013-07-28 Thread James Cloos
> "WL" == Werner LEMBERG writes: WL> Th[e] [/uring] glyph is only contained in the URW fonts. It would be useful were the \[] construct, if the NFC glyph is unavailable but the NFD constituents are, to use the same mechanism as \o'' to construct a fallback for the desired glyph. Also, I see

Re: [Groff] need help with composite glyphs

2013-07-28 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> It would be useful were the \[] construct, if the NFC glyph is > unavailable but the NFD constituents are, to use the same mechanism > as \o'' to construct a fallback for the desired glyph. Certainly. > Also, I see that preconv converts ů to \[u016F] and ů to u\[u030A], > neither of which fal