Re: [Groff] Macro packages

2012-10-04 Thread Pierre-Jean
Hello, trebol wrote: > So maybe I’ll try ms, I > find it more simple (the groff_ms man page show me in a cou‐ > ple of lines all the basic things I want to do in a simple > way), and like Ralph suggests, extend it with my own macros > to fill my needs. That's the step I followed four years

Re: [Groff] Macro packages

2012-10-04 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
From: Pierre-Jean > This could help me to resolve my personal "TeX vs > Groff" advantages and disadvantages dilemma (And other peo‐ > ple reading the mailing list too). This has been discussed a lot here. It also have been discussed on plan9 m

Re: [Groff] Macro packages

2012-10-04 Thread Pierre-Jean
Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > Another factor is size. A modern latex > distribution, i.e. texlive is enormous. That's why some people are building the minimal Kertex distribution. They want Tex to be like Troff ! Pierre-Jean.

[Groff] Q: .B man macros and escape

2012-10-04 Thread walter harms
Hi list, i found a minor issue within the man macros. Most likely this is a know behaver but i found no mention of it. As documented you can escape "\" by using "\\" or "\e\". This went wrong in a man page. Please try the striped down example: .TH test 3 test .SH test .B "\en" .B "\\n" with "man

Re: [Groff] Q: .B man macros and escape

2012-10-04 Thread Denis M. Wilson
Hello All, The line .B "\\n" turns into \n which looks like a number register without an argument: if you try groff -ww -man example.1 > /dev/null you will see the error message example.1:4: a newline character is not allowed in an escape name It's not a man bug, it's troff expected behaviou

Re: [Groff] Q: .B man macros and escape

2012-10-04 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> As documented you can escape "\" by using "\\" or "\e\". To which documentation are you referring? > This went wrong in a man page. Please try the stripped down example: > > .TH test 3 test > .SH test > .B "\en" > .B "\\n" > > with "man -l example.1" i see the \n only once. > Bug of feature

Re: [Groff] Macro packages

2012-10-04 Thread Denis M. Wilson
Hello all, Pierre-Jean, you ask for experiences of users. My own is that I used troff for all academic documentation, once Unix was obtained, but once groff appeared (in the early 1990s) writing troff macros became easier (well, less difficult). I did a great number of newsletters and handbooks,

[Groff] New release of -markup

2012-10-04 Thread Denis M. Wilson
Having made many changes in the last three years, I've put up version 1.0.7 of my -markup package. The changes are mostly cosmetic and bug fixes, but I have added more real-life examples. It is at http://www.oxytropis.plus.com/groff/ Denis -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\

Re: [Groff] Q: .B man macros and escape

2012-10-04 Thread walter harms
Am 04.10.2012 15:41, schrieb Werner LEMBERG: > >> As documented you can escape "\" by using "\\" or "\e\". > > To which documentation are you referring? Unix Text Processing p.377 i guess it is also mentioned in the man/info pages related to groff. > >> This went wrong in a man page. Please

Re: [Groff] Macro packages

2012-10-04 Thread Steve Izma
On Thu, Oct 04, 2012 at 02:54:10PM +0100, Denis M. Wilson wrote: > Subject: Re: [Groff] Macro packages > > One of my regrets is that there is no troff interface for Lilypond... One of my regrets, as well. Lilypond's basic input system works very well, I find, but I haven't been able to get comfor

Re: [Groff] Macro packages

2012-10-04 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> One of my regrets is that there is no troff interface for > Lilypond... Hmm, being an active LilyPond developer also (but rather for the lilypond fonts and not lilypond-book, the LaTeX-lilypond interface program), I think you should ask there, at least to register this as a request. Werne

Re: [Groff] Macro Packages

2012-10-04 Thread Doug McIlroy
I had to chuckle at this > I can't believe it fits in 10M. Back when troff was drilled into my fingers, it fit in 64K program space plus 64K data space. Each preprocessor got a similar allotment. Roff, the predecessor of troff, fit in 8K total. Some features have been

Re: [Groff] Macro Packages

2012-10-04 Thread Grigoriy A. Sitkarev
Let me please express my opinion and share experience. I am not a long‐time groff user, but I use it exclusively for about two years to typeset my papers and short booklets. There are people here in the list who have used original troff when I wasn’t born yet. Some of them participated i

Re: [Groff] Macro Packages

2012-10-04 Thread Grigoriy A. Sitkarev
Excuse me to give a bad example! The second eqn example must be read like this: .EQ P sub back 20 g = 10 .EN -- Grisha 05.10.2012 05:11, Grigoriy A. Sitkarev пишет: Let me please express my opinion and share experience.