Re: [Groff] holistic widow elimination

2012-01-08 Thread Pierre-Jean
Werner LEMBERG wrote: > > > I remember reading (on this list) a PHD thesis by Han The Thanh (of > > pdfTEX fame) on micro typography, although the original is now a > > dead link I think I've found it here:- > > > > http://www.pragma-ade.com/pdftex/thesis.pdf > > > > Many thought provoking i

Re: [Groff] holistic widow elimination

2012-01-08 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> All his ideas (or rather, Hermann Zapf's ideas) have been >> implemented in pdfTeX. However, this still doesn't solve the >> original issue discussed in this thread. > > They are also implemented in Heirloom Troff, which I've used for the > thesis of my wife, and which I'm still using for min

Re: [Groff] End-of-page macro problem at end of input file...

2012-01-08 Thread Anton Shepelev
Clarke Echols: > I know the 'bp is the cause, but don't know how to > handle page numbering at the bottom of the page > while suppressing the 'bp request after EOF is > reached. Do I understand you correctly that you are calling a 'bp explicitly in the end of your file? If so, maybe

Re: [Groff] End-of-page macro problem at end of input file...

2012-01-08 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Clarke, > .de print_page_number > .ev pr_print_pageno > .\" Register `XX' is defined in the text source file: > .\" XX=1 means title page which has no printed page >number. > .\" XX=0 means other pages which all have printed page numbers. > . > . if !\\n(

Re: [Groff] End-of-page macro problem at end of input file...

2012-01-08 Thread Clarke Echols
On 01/08/2012 06:43 AM, Ralph Corderoy wrote: Hi Clarke, .de print_page_number .ev pr_print_pageno .\" Register `XX' is defined in the text source file: .\" XX=1 means title page which has no printed page>number. .\" XX=0 means other pages which all have p

Re: [Groff] holistic widow elimination

2012-01-08 Thread Peter Schaffter
On Sun, Jan 08, 2012, Werner Lemberg wrote: > Yes. It's probably heretic to say but for serious typography Heirloom > troff offers much more possibilities. Not heretical at all, merely true, as Pierre-Jean's example demonstrates. How radically different is Heirloom troff's code from groff's? Is

[Groff] groff to RTF or Word

2012-01-08 Thread Doug McIlroy
I have a paper composed in notrivial groff (uses pic, eqn, tbl, and .PSPIC), which I'd like to submit to a journal that takes any kind of digital text--as long as it's Word or RTF. I haven't been able to find any tool that offers much help in getting from here to there. I'd be delighted if somebo

Re: [Groff] groff to RTF or Word

2012-01-08 Thread foveal
> I have a paper composed in notrivial groff (uses pic, > eqn, tbl, and .PSPIC), which I'd like to submit to a > journal that takes any kind of digital text--as > long as it's Word or RTF. I haven't been able to find > any tool that offers much help in getting from here to > there. I'd be delighte

Re: [Groff] groff to RTF or Word

2012-01-08 Thread Clarke Echols
On 01/08/2012 08:47 PM, fov...@mail150.pair.com wrote: I have a paper composed in notrivial groff (uses pic, eqn, tbl, and .PSPIC), which I'd like to submit to a journal that takes any kind of digital text--as long as it's Word or RTF. I haven't been able to find any tool that offers much help i

Re: [Groff] holistic widow elimination

2012-01-08 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> How radically different is Heirloom troff's code from groff's? Heirloom troff is essentially using TeX's algorithm (with slight simplifications, AFAIK) to format paragraphs. > Is there anything in groff that would conflict with implementations > of .padj, .minss and .letadj? Their absence, or