Re: [Groff] Status of the portability work, and plans for the future

2007-01-09 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Werner LEMBERG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > You wouldn't happen to know of mappings for the bracket pile > > graphics, would you? > > What do you think about looking into groff_char also, not just > lifting? :-) I've studied it pretty carefully, actually. How else do you suppose I built the translat

Re: [Groff] Status of the portability work, and plans for the future

2007-01-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> > What do you think about looking into groff_char also, not just > > lifting? :-) > > I've studied it pretty carefully, actually. How else do you suppose > I built the translation tables in doclifter? Touché. > Sigh...I rather expected that was what you were going to tell me. > Oh well, after

Re: [Groff] Status of the portability work, and plans for the future

2007-01-09 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Werner LEMBERG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hmm. I have > > U+23A2 LEFT SQUARE BRACKET EXTENSION > U+23A5 RIGHT SQUARE BRACKET EXTENSION W00t! I googled for that and I think I found matches for *all* of them nearby, here: . > Please p

Re: [Groff] Status of the portability work, and plans for the future

2007-01-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> > U+23A2 LEFT SQUARE BRACKET EXTENSION > > U+23A5 RIGHT SQUARE BRACKET EXTENSION > > W00t! I googled for that and I think I found matches for *all* of > them nearby, here: Yep. I think I have all of them in groff_char. > .if '\*[.T]'dvi' \{\ > . ftr CB CW > .\} > . > .de SY > .nh > .a

Re: [Groff] Status of the portability work, and plans for the future

2007-01-09 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Werner LEMBERG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > U+23A2 LEFT SQUARE BRACKET EXTENSION > > > U+23A5 RIGHT SQUARE BRACKET EXTENSION > > > > W00t! I googled for that and I think I found matches for *all* of > > them nearby, here: > > Yep. I think I have all of them in groff_char. Yes, I think you

Re: [Groff] Status of the portability work, and plans for the future

2007-01-09 Thread Gunnar Ritter
"Eric S. Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gunnar Ritter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Yes, and authors would also get nasty bug reports from > > people who compile their manual pages with the switch > > turned off because it is the default. This would be as > > bad as gcc shipping with -Wall enabl

Re: [Groff] Status of the portability work, and plans for the future

2007-01-09 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Gunnar Ritter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Then at the very least add some sort of /*LINTED*/ comment > that allows authors to turn off your warnings within the > manual page. That's a good idea, if the way the warning hooks are implemented allows it. > Huh? What world are you living on, Eric? In your

Re: [Groff] Status of the portability work, and plans for the future

2007-01-09 Thread Gunnar Ritter
"Eric S. Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Huh? What world are you living on, Eric? In yours, people > > like browser windows popping up, make no use of browser tabs, > > and especially do not have their tabbed browser on another > > virtual desktop than their xterm(s)? Sounds like a strange

Re: [Groff] Status of the portability work, and plans for the future

2007-01-09 Thread Jon Snader
On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 10:02:11PM -0500, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > > Gunnar, Linux man(1) can do this *now*. I added the code myself over a > year ago. All that's needed is for HTML pages to be in the right > places under /usr/man and it's game over. Of course, if you were > insistent on a cra

Re: [Groff] Status of the portability work, and plans for the future

2007-01-09 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Jon Snader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > As a Vim user, I use the K command to pop up a man page in an > editor window when I need to check the exact usage or parameters. > I know that emacs users can do similar things with the M-x man > command. Most serious developers use either emacs or Vim, so I'd >

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Re: [Groff] Status of the portability work, and plans for the future

2007-01-09 Thread Joerg van den Hoff
Eric S. Raymond wrote: Jon Snader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: As a Vim user, I use the K command to pop up a man page in an editor window when I need to check the exact usage or parameters. I know that emacs users can do similar things with the M-x man command. Most serious developers use either emacs

Re: [Groff] Status of the portability work, and plans for the future

2007-01-09 Thread Jon Snader
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 12:03:14PM -0500, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > > Your thinking is intelligent and cogent -- but your factual > premise is wrong, leading you to an incorrect model of my > assumptions. On my usual desktop arrangement, rendering man > pages in a browser *would* in fact have the

[Groff] Re: New PS font definition files

2007-01-09 Thread Michail Vidiassov
Dear Werner, On Sun, 7 Jan 2007, Werner LEMBERG wrote: But if AGL 2.0 is sacred More or less, yes :-) .. maybe you find a better place for documentation. Why do you ask ME to document YOUR superstitions? ;) IMHO it is to be swept under the carpet and does not require any documentation.

Re: [Groff] Status of the portability work, and plans for the future

2007-01-09 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Joerg van den Hoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > well at least I would argue that navigating with `less' through the man > output is superior to `lynx' for the same purpose In what way? That is, what actual capabilities and behaviors are you basing that evaluation on? And thanks for speaking up. --

Re: [Groff] Status of the portability work, and plans for the future

2007-01-09 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Jon Snader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I stand corrected on your desktop set up, but I'm willing to > concede only half the point. With your desktop, calling up a man > page from your editor would cause a browser to pop up. That's a > little distracting, perhaps, but not nearly so much as having to >

Re: [Groff] Status of the portability work, and plans for the future

2007-01-09 Thread Jon Snader
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 02:26:38PM -0500, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > > For me, and I think many others, > > getting a man page in an editor window does make sense and I > > wouldn't want to lose that ability. > > I agreed with you about this last time. I still don't see

[Groff] Re: New PS font definition files

2007-01-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Why do you ask ME to document YOUR superstitions? ;) Hehe. > IMHO it is to be swept under the carpet and does not require any > documentation. OK. Werner ___ Groff mailing list Groff@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/groff