Werner LEMBERG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I would claim it is. The groff manual pages also cannot be
> > > displayed properly by other manual page viewers. There are
> > > some glitches even with Heirloom troff; although it can handle
> > > the language, some groff-specific macros do not exi
M Bianchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> +-+ ++
> | man pages |-+ +--->| HTML on browsers |
> +-+ | / ++
> |
On Sat, Dec 23, 2006 at 10:26:43PM -0500, Larry Kollar wrote:
> :
> The problem with using XML for documentation is that it was
> designed specifically for machine processing -- and *people*
> write documents for *other* people.
I agree and think this is _very_ important. groff -mm and -ms
On Sun, Dec 24, 2006 at 01:35:09AM -0500, Eric S. Raymond wrote:
> :
> This is a much richer ontology than HTML, so man -> DocBook -> HTML
> produces best possible HTML. man -> HTML, on the other hand, ends up
> translating man pages into a sort of least-common-denominator ontology
> between
Werner LEMBERG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > 1) It would address the issue by adding complexity to the markup and
> >the interpretation path, rather than subtracting it.
>
> Not necessarily. Currently, you are applying doclifter's heuristic
> engine to guess a high-level structure of a man page (c
Gunnar Ritter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Well, does this mean that I should refrain from using any GNU
> > extensions in man pages?
>
> Yes, I recommend that. As you know, I like most of them and
> have re-implemented them accordingly in Heirloom troff, so
> this is not an argument against groff ext
Gunnar Ritter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> But I think the most important question for troff people is,
> where is a complete, high-quality converter for
>
>+-+/ +===+
>| XML-DocBook |===>| troff | ?
>+-+\ +
M Bianchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Since DocBook deduces _meaning_ from the presentation markup
DocBook does nothing of the sort. It's doclifter that does that.
> then I will claim
> that the correct path needs to be something like ...
> groff -man ->
Enclosed version of groff.1 uses only standard man macros and .de;
I've inserted .in and .br macros to make the Synopis pretty again.
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http://www.catb.org/~esr/";>Eric S. Raymond
fixed-groff.man
Description: Unix manual page
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Groff
On Sun, Dec 24, 2006 at 04:48:50PM -0500, Eric S. Raymond wrote:
> Enclosed version of groff.1 uses only standard man macros and .de;
> I've inserted .in and .br macros to make the Synopis pretty again.
Woops!
I apologize. I've been looking at _very_ old versions of the man page source.
I think
On Dec 24, 2006, at 12:01 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote:
Gunnar Ritter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
But I think the most important question for troff people is,
where is a complete, high-quality converter for
+-+/ +===+
| XML-DocBook |===>| troff |
mhobgood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> For those of us not up to speed on all the current jargon, would you
> explain what XSL and FO are?
http://www.w3.org/TR/2001/REC-xsl-20011015/
You can think of it as a sort of XML-world equivalent of TeX or
PostScript. The idea is that XML applications needing
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