Re: [Groff] Composite output regression due to Unicode fonts?

2006-08-10 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 08:16:51AM +0200, Werner LEMBERG wrote: > Colin Watson wrote: > > man-db uses a classical troff pipeline rather than using groff > > directly, so this is not possible. It also has its own soelim > > implementation, created in order to be able to handle compressed > > files.

Re: [Groff] Re: unicode support, part 14: unicode fonts

2006-08-10 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 08:14:14AM +0200, Werner LEMBERG wrote: > Colin Watson wrote: > > For Unicode fonts (which ought to be increasingly the norm), the > > proposal to write out all glyph properties in the font file seems > > odd; as far as I understand the point of Bruno's Unicode fonts > > ver

Re: [Groff] explicit hyphen and numbers

2006-08-10 Thread Larry Kollar
Werner LEMBERG wrote: > Urs showed up an interesting problem in groff: A hyphen between two > numbers does *not* insert a breakpoint! To be more specific, the > .cflags values 2 and 4 of a character x are only active if the > characters before and after x both have non-zero hyphenation codes (as

Re: [Groff] explicit hyphen and numbers

2006-08-10 Thread Keith Marshall
On Thursday 10 August 2006 1:37 pm, Larry Kollar wrote: > Werner LEMBERG wrote: > > Urs showed up an interesting problem in groff: A hyphen between two > > numbers does *not* insert a breakpoint! To be more specific, the > > .cflags values 2 and 4 of a character x are only active if the > > charac

RE: [Groff] explicit hyphen and numbers

2006-08-10 Thread Ted Harding
On 10-Aug-06 Werner LEMBERG wrote: > > Folks, > > > Urs showed up an interesting problem in groff: A hyphen between two > numbers does *not* insert a breakpoint! To be more specific, the > .cflags values 2 and 4 of a character x are only active if the > characters before and after x both have n

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2006-08-10 Thread M Bianchi
On Tue, Aug 08, 2006 at 12:20:25PM -0600, Clarke Echols wrote: > I haven't done labels, but I wrote a package to print business cards > on pre-perforated business-card stock. > : On the basis that 0x01 example is worth 1K words, here is a test sheet for Avery 5163 2 x 4 inch Mailing Labels

Re: [Groff] explicit hyphen and numbers

2006-08-10 Thread Steve Izma
On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 09:25:09AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > From: Werner LEMBERG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 07:39:19 +0200 (CEST) > To: groff@gnu.org > Subject: [Groff] explicit hyphen and numbers > > ... > Since it isn't possible to set the hcode value for numbers, thi

Re: [Groff] explicit hyphen and numbers

2006-08-10 Thread Ted Harding
On 10-Aug-06 Steve Izma wrote: >> From: Keith Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 14:28:29 +0100 >> >> I won't! If I write a numeric range, such as `200-400', >> I *don't* want a line break to occur within it. > > Well, I'll disagree. I can't find any reference to this in eith

Re: [Groff] explicit hyphen and numbers

2006-08-10 Thread Clarke Echols
Given the ease with which one can allow a break at a hyphen, I'm happy with it the way it is. But then I use groff to typeset novels (for a friend), so I carefully proof-read everything and fix what needs attention. I'm not one of those who wants to just toss the text at a formatter and get perf

Re: [Groff] explicit hyphen and numbers

2006-08-10 Thread Larry Kollar
Ted Harding wrote: > On 10-Aug-06 Steve Izma wrote: >> >> Well, I'll disagree. [...] when setting >> indexes on short lines (e.g., two columns on book page, which >> gives you about 10 to 12 picas, usually indented), any place >> where you can get a line break is very important. > > Yes, that d

Re: [Groff] explicit hyphen and numbers

2006-08-10 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I can't think of a context where a true hyphen between numbers could > be accetably broken. > > I'm excluding cases where a number-range is implied, as in > > Items 2-7 > > since this should properly be represented by an en-dash (with or > without padding), as in > > 2\(en7 2\^\(en\^7

Re: [Groff] Composite output regression due to Unicode fonts?

2006-08-10 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> > I see. Well, `preconv -e ...' will be replaced with `soelim -e ...', > > so this isn't a real problem. > > OK. I think a link will still be needed, Hmm, I quite dislike a hard link. > because simply checking whether preconv exists on $PATH is a lot > easier for man to do than trying to

Re: [Groff] explicit hyphen and numbers

2006-08-10 Thread Tadziu Hoffmann
> If anyone can think of a context where a hyphen break between > two numbers is OK, I'd be very interested to hear of it! > And, if the exceptions are so special, then I'm sure that > Werner's workround of "\:" should be acceptable, since people > are not going to need it all that often. > Meanwh

Re: [Groff] explicit hyphen and numbers

2006-08-10 Thread Tadziu Hoffmann
> BTW, in German, AFAIK, you should use `-', not \[en]. Are you sure about this? I just checked a few examples (real books, so I assume these were created by professional typesetters) both old (letterpress stuff, yay!) and new, and they all use the en dash (or, in an old book, something longer,