Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-13 Thread DJ Chase
On Sat Aug 13, 2022 at 4:25 PM EDT, James K. Lowden wrote: > On Thu, 11 Aug 2022 12:31:51 +1000 (AEST) > Damian McGuckin wrote: > > On Wed, 10 Aug 2022, Larry McVoy wrote: > > > I emailed ra...@inputplus.co.uk who owns troff.org to see if he > > > wanted to host papers. troff.org looks pretty dea

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-13 Thread James K. Lowden
On Thu, 11 Aug 2022 12:31:51 +1000 (AEST) Damian McGuckin wrote: > On Wed, 10 Aug 2022, Larry McVoy wrote: > > > I emailed ra...@inputplus.co.uk who owns troff.org to see if he > > wanted to host papers. troff.org looks pretty dead so we shall > > see. If he is still there, that would be a gre

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-12 Thread Thomas Dupond
Robert Marks wrote: > Dear All, > > I have added two files (a source file sourcepr, and its processed PDF file > sourcepr-3.pdf) > in the directory https://www.agsm.edu.au/bobm/groff/ > > This is a slideshow for a presentation; it uses eqn, grap, and tbl, with > some unusual fonts for display.

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-12 Thread Robert Marks
Dear All, I have added two files (a source file sourcepr, and its processed PDF file sourcepr-3.pdf) in the directory https://www.agsm.edu.au/bobm/groff/ This is a slideshow for a presentation; it uses eqn, grap, and tbl, with some unusual fonts for display. Enjoy, Robert Marks -- https://www

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-11 Thread Thomas Dupond
Larry McVoy wrote: > On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 09:29:29PM -0500, Dave Kemper wrote: > > On 8/10/22, Damian McGuckin wrote: > > > Do we just send them as attachments and let some poor bunny collate them? > > > I do not want to overburden somebody limke Branden. How do we make them > > > available?

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-10 Thread hbezemer--- via
Damian McGuckin wrote: > On Wed, 10 Aug 2022, Larry McVoy wrote: > > > Well my papers are copyright sun, sgi, google, bitmover, and there has > > been enough time passed that nobody cares any more. > > Journals have a long memory unfortunately. I think Elsevier are looking to > waive copyrigh

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-10 Thread hbezemer--- via
Thank you Robert! I've downloaded the documents and will look into them. Hans Robert Marks wrote: > Following suggestions from hbeze...@kliksafe.nl and Larry McVoy, > I have put the source file (and the latest PDF output) in a directory, at > https://www.agsm.edu.au/bobm/groff/ > > There are

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-10 Thread G. Branden Robinson
At 2022-08-11T12:31:51+1000, Damian McGuckin wrote: > I use MM as a macro package. Is that still relevant to enough people? I think so. People pop up out of nowhere from time to time who use it, and groff's implementation is not "deprecated" or anything like that. In fact, recently, I've begun f

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-10 Thread Damian McGuckin
On Wed, 10 Aug 2022, Larry McVoy wrote: Well my papers are copyright sun, sgi, google, bitmover, and there has been enough time passed that nobody cares any more. Journals have a long memory unfortunately. I think Elsevier are looking to waive copyright on their 40 year old papers and prior s

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-10 Thread Larry McVoy
On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 12:31:51PM +1000, Damian McGuckin wrote: > On Wed, 10 Aug 2022, Larry McVoy wrote: > > >I emailed ra...@inputplus.co.uk who owns troff.org to see if he wanted > >to host papers. troff.org looks pretty dead so we shall see. If he is > >still there, that would be a great pl

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-10 Thread Larry McVoy
On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 09:29:29PM -0500, Dave Kemper wrote: > On 8/10/22, Damian McGuckin wrote: > > Do we just send them as attachments and let some poor bunny collate them? > > I do not want to overburden somebody limke Branden. How do we make them > > available? > > The groff examples reposit

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-10 Thread Damian McGuckin
On Wed, 10 Aug 2022, Larry McVoy wrote: I emailed ra...@inputplus.co.uk who owns troff.org to see if he wanted to host papers. troff.org looks pretty dead so we shall see. If he is still there, that would be a great place to host example papers. One issue is that most of my papers are either

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-10 Thread Dave Kemper
On 8/10/22, Damian McGuckin wrote: > Do we just send them as attachments and let some poor bunny collate them? > I do not want to overburden somebody limke Branden. How do we make them > available? The groff examples repository (http://www.froude.eu/groff/) so far has only snippets showing how to

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-10 Thread Larry McVoy
I emailed ra...@inputplus.co.uk who owns troff.org to see if he wanted to host papers. troff.org looks pretty dead so we shall see. If he is still there, that would be a great place to host example papers. On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 11:32:24AM +1000, Damian McGuckin wrote: > On Wed, 10 Aug 2022, La

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-10 Thread Damian McGuckin
On Wed, 10 Aug 2022, Larry McVoy wrote: I'm a big fan of sharing sources to papers done in troff. I've learned a lot from reading those. Do we just send them as attachments and let some poor bunny collate them? I do not want to overburden somebody limke Branden. How do we make them availabl

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-10 Thread Robert Marks
Following suggestions from hbeze...@kliksafe.nl and Larry McVoy, I have put the source file (and the latest PDF output) in a directory, at https://www.agsm.edu.au/bobm/groff/ There are some comments to myself, and some std output diagnostics, and I have not included the smart quotes macro or the d

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-10 Thread Larry McVoy
I'm a big fan of sharing sources to papers done in troff. I've learned a lot from reading those. On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 10:22:52AM +0200, hbezemer--- via wrote: > Dear Robert, > > Robert Marks wrote: > > > More recently ??? last year in fact ??? as the Editor I used troff to set > > the > >

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-10 Thread hbezemer--- via
Dear Robert, Robert Marks wrote: > More recently ??? last year in fact ??? as the Editor I used troff to set the > text for an especially mathematical paper in the Journal and Proceedings of > the Royal Society of New South Wales (Sydney). See the paper, > Basil Hiley. > The Moyal-Dirac controv

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-09 Thread Robert Marks
As I said earlier, we used nroff/troff to produce the Australian Journal of Management in the 1980s. More recently — last year in fact — as the Editor I used troff to set the text for an especially mathematical paper in the Journal and Proceedings of the Royal Society of New South Wales (Sydney).