Re: a question of hyphenation policy

2024-08-31 Thread G. Branden Robinson
At 2024-08-31T17:23:49-0400, Douglas McIlroy wrote: > A day after opning on the subject, > I came across a delicious example, > "suspended between the nas- > > tiness of life and the meanness > of death", split just like that between > recto and verso of the first leaf of > Toni Morrison's classic

Re: a question of hyphenation policy

2024-08-31 Thread Douglas McIlroy
A day after opning on the subject, I came across a delicious example, "suspended between the nas- tiness of life and the meanness of death", split just like that between recto and verso of the first leaf of Toni Morrison's classic "Beloved". Doug

Re: a question of hyphenation policy

2024-08-30 Thread Tadziu Hoffmann
> > I believe distorting the shapes of letters is even more frowned > > upon in typesetting circles than consecutive hyphenation is. > > Tadziu, were you referring to your language (where I *think* > hyphenation would always be necessary)? Sorry if my wording was a bit vague. I was referring t

Re: a question of hyphenation policy

2024-08-30 Thread Robert Thorsby
On 30/8/24 20:54, Tadziu Hoffmann wrote: \s[-X]\H[+X]text to be kerned goes here\H[0]\s0 I believe distorting the shapes of letters is even more frowned upon in typesetting circles than consecutive hyphenation is. I agree that if the distortion becomes visible then it was the wrong tool fo

Re: a question of hyphenation policy

2024-08-30 Thread Tadziu Hoffmann
> \s[-X]\H[+X]text to be kerned goes here\H[0]\s0 I believe distorting the shapes of letters is even more frowned upon in typesetting circles than consecutive hyphenation is. As a practical approach to manually optimizing the line breaks in a paragraph, I have found that twiddling the space siz

Re: a question of hyphenation policy

2024-08-30 Thread Tadziu Hoffmann
> .hlm nSet the consecutive automatically hyphenated line limit >to to n. A negative value means "no limit". What happens after that count is reached is that the next line is stretched wide, simply to avoid hyphenation (unless .na is used, in which case the line is simply broke

Re: a question of hyphenation policy

2024-08-30 Thread Robert Thorsby
Hi again Branden, I'll let others respond regarding the morality of dangling hyphens on the last line. :-) On 30/8/24 16:38, G. Branden Robinson wrote: At 2024-08-30T16:29:03+1000, Robert Thorsby wrote: I wouldn't call myself a typographer but I refuse to allow hyphens to break, usually via '

Re: a question of hyphenation policy

2024-08-29 Thread G. Branden Robinson
Hi Robert, At 2024-08-30T16:29:03+1000, Robert Thorsby wrote: > I wouldn't call myself a typographer but I refuse to allow hyphens to > break, usually via '.hy 0' or by using '\%'. I then kern the tripe out > of any offending line, often using Ted Harding's "poor man's kerning" > trick. Ooh, that

Re: a question of hyphenation policy

2024-08-29 Thread Robert Thorsby
Hi Branden, On 30/8/24 15:22, G. Branden Robinson wrote: I need guidance from real typographers. GNU troff has long borne the following feature. I presume that this is configurable because it becomes uncomfortable for the reader to see a river of hyphens at the right margin. My question is: s